well first off lets compare mandatory's here
Haye - Ruiz, and next up Valuev...again
Wlad - Chambers (already a step above Ruiz), Rahman (was pure crap but was beaten just as that), Thompson (only had one defeat and it was a lopsided fight, that ended by KO), Chagaev wasn't a mandatory neither was Ibragimov, last mandatory was Austin which was a gimme after facing, Peter, Byrd, and Brock back to back
Vitali - after a 4 yr retirement came back and beat the shit out of Peter to snag the title, then fought mandatory Gomez (won pretty easily), gave a onesided beating to then undefeated Arreola, and
then beat up Johnson, and well is now set to beat up Sosnowski
position doesn't mean shit, it just further proves that Haye is where he is more due to his mouth than his actual "talent", once people start demanding he backs up what he says, he'll either get whooped or flat out quit, which he's already planning on doing with his 2 more and out

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