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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    According to Wlad it's personal now. He doesn't want a fight with Peter or Povetkin or any other contender. It's just Haye he wants. He says he's pushing for the fight right now because of all the past antics.

    And another thing that piece of shit Arum is trying to force another fight with Peter and he wants the IBF to strip Wlad if he doesn't.
    Klitschko: "Haye is The Only Fight I Want, It's Personal" - Boxing News

    So I guess the ball is in Haye's court to making the fight happen. Haye and his fans say it's an easy ko within 3 rds against chinny Wlad, so then let's see the fight. Or how about with an 38 yr. old Vitali that half on this forum said would be an easy UD against an old man. It's time to put up or shut up.

    Do half the forum really think that? I was under the general impression that most on here thought a David Haye victory over either Klitschko was about as likely as a Gordon Brown reelection victory at the polls next month?
    Read around. Vitali gets battered around like John Ruiz as they say. Wlad gets koed within 3. Easy fights, easy money for Haye against so call bums.

    So the fight should happen eh?

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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Wlad's jab will simply turn Haye's face into raspberries jam and Haye will never be able to close the distance enough to make any significant damage, the hype is just too big, if a fighter shot like Barrett did floor him without problems, I don't even want to imagine what's gonna happen to Haye. As for Vitali, Haye doesn't even have the power to shake the rust off him, if he could absorb Lewis best shots without flinching, Haye's power will be a walk in the park.
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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Wow Wlad is really turning on the charm
    Goes to show how far being gentleman gets you in this sport

    It's good through, i'm gald Wladimir has turned a corner. He needed a slight attitude transplant and he seems to have gone full whack with the cinematic call-out vid etc.. I wouldn't be surprised if Wlad started wearing T-shirts with pictures of Adam Booth with his own Cock stuffed in his gob

    Again, i'm glad. Fuck it, hype is hype. And hype sells.
    If/ when Wladimir knocks Haye out, he'll get all the dues he deserves.
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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Too bad Wlad is a pussy! But seriously If this fight happens ill be rooting for Haye but obviously logic say's he's guna get smashed but gotta go with my heart on this one! He will do one but Vitali is another story pfft! I cant see that turning out good for Haye ever!
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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    According to Wlad it's personal now. He doesn't want a fight with Peter or Povetkin or any other contender. It's just Haye he wants. He says he's pushing for the fight right now because of all the past antics.

    And another thing that piece of shit Arum is trying to force another fight with Peter and he wants the IBF to strip Wlad if he doesn't.
    Klitschko: "Haye is The Only Fight I Want, It's Personal" - Boxing News

    So I guess the ball is in Haye's court to making the fight happen. Haye and his fans say it's an easy ko within 3 rds against chinny Wlad, so then let's see the fight. Or how about with an 38 yr. old Vitali that half on this forum said would be an easy UD against an old man. It's time to put up or shut up.

    Do half the forum really think that? I was under the general impression that most on here thought a David Haye victory over either Klitschko was about as likely as a Gordon Brown reelection victory at the polls next month?
    Read around. Vitali gets battered around like John Ruiz as they say. Wlad gets koed within 3. Easy fights, easy money for Haye against so call bums.

    So the fight should happen eh?
    I'm amazed anyone would think Haye batters Vitali around like an old man when he couldnt batter Monte Barrett or Nikolay Valuev around like old men.

    I've never seen Vitali battered, I just can't see Haye making any more of an impression against him than Arreola or Sam Peter did.

    He has a slightly better chance with Wladmir because he's been knocked out in the past, but I seriously doubt Wlad would take any risks with Haye's power in that fight and if he doesn't land the big one I don't see how he can win that fight.

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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Funny how people are talking all the Haye KO's Wlad bullshit yet none want to keep in mind Haye has a soft chin himself and Wlad hits a hell of a lot harder then anything Haye has ever faced....

    We have never seen an angry aggressive Wlad...Wlad is always well controlled....Take that poise and add well controlled anger behind it and Haye is in trouble...As anyone else....

    I would like someone to explain to me how Haye manages to keep off an attacking Wlad who is looking just to take his head off?..

    Haye isn't that strong and he isn't that good of a counter puncher...Certainly can't rely on his defense...

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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Funny how people are talking all the Haye KO's Wlad bullshit yet none want to keep in mind Haye has a soft chin himself and Wlad hits a hell of a lot harder then anything Haye has ever faced....

    We have never seen an angry aggressive Wlad...Wlad is always well controlled....Take that poise and add well controlled anger behind it and Haye is in trouble...As anyone else....

    I would like someone to explain to me how Haye manages to keep off an attacking Wlad who is looking just to take his head off?..

    Haye isn't that strong and he isn't that good of a counter puncher...Certainly can't rely on his defense...

    I'm sorry to say I don't see that happening for at least 10 rounds.

    I actually think the fight would be VERY anti climactic. Neither fighter would want to take any risks and Wlad would win with his jab alone.

    I know people seem to think it could be a barnburner but I highly highly doubt it. We saw how cautious Haye was against Valuev and Wlad is almost as big and twice as dangerous.

    Plus we've seen how cautious Wladimir is agiainst everybody.

    They will barely throw a meaningful punch between them for the first 6 rounds imo.

    The knockout may come, and it may be brutal, but it will be an end of fight affair like against Tony Thompson or Eddie Chambers imo, Wladmir isn't about to throw caution to the wind and open up on the most dangerous opponent he has faced since Sam Peter until there is literally nothing coming back, just not happening.

    And David Haye, for all his macho speak of knocking their heads off knows it's a suicide mission to try and engage head on with them. He'll fight the way he did against Valuev, looking to keep out of the way and dart in and out scoring punches. But Wlad's jab will nullify him and he'll just be like everyone else backed up in the corner and unable to get close.

    He may hit a bit harder than most of the other heavies but in terms of beating either Klitschko he brings nothing to the table that the other guys have brought. He'll go the same way.

    For the record, the fighter with the best chance to upset them is Odlanier Solis...
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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Funny how people are talking all the Haye KO's Wlad bullshit yet none want to keep in mind Haye has a soft chin himself and Wlad hits a hell of a lot harder then anything Haye has ever faced....

    We have never seen an angry aggressive Wlad...Wlad is always well controlled....Take that poise and add well controlled anger behind it and Haye is in trouble...As anyone else....

    I would like someone to explain to me how Haye manages to keep off an attacking Wlad who is looking just to take his head off?..

    Haye isn't that strong and he isn't that good of a counter puncher...Certainly can't rely on his defense...

    I'm sorry to say I don't see that happening for at least 10 rounds.

    I actually think the fight would be VERY anti climactic. Neither fighter would want to take any risks and Wlad would win with his jab alone.

    I know people seem to think it could be a barnburner but I highly highly doubt it. We saw how cautious Haye was against Valuev and Wlad is almost as big and twice as dangerous.

    Plus we've seen how cautious Wladimir is agiainst everybody.

    They will barely throw a meaningful punch between them for the first 6 rounds imo.

    The knockout may come, and it may be brutal, but it will be an end of fight affair like against Tony Thompson or Eddie Chambers imo, Wladmir isn't about to throw caution to the wind and open up on the most dangerous opponent he has faced since Sam Peter until there is literally nothing coming back, just not happening.

    And David Haye, for all his macho speak of knocking their heads off knows it's a suicide mission to try and engage head on with them. He'll fight the way he did against Valuev, looking to keep out of the way and dart in and out scoring punches. But Wlad's jab will nullify him and he'll just be like everyone else backed up in the corner and unable to get close.

    He may hit a bit harder than most of the other heavies but in terms of beating either Klitschko he brings nothing to the table that the other guys have brought. He'll go the same way.

    For the record, the fighter with the best chance to upset them is Odlanier Solis...
    When they were going to fight the first time Wlad said he wanted to take Haye 12 rounds to inflict the maximum long term damage on him. Maybe the Chambers fight was practice for that.
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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Funny how people are talking all the Haye KO's Wlad bullshit yet none want to keep in mind Haye has a soft chin himself and Wlad hits a hell of a lot harder then anything Haye has ever faced....

    We have never seen an angry aggressive Wlad...Wlad is always well controlled....Take that poise and add well controlled anger behind it and Haye is in trouble...As anyone else....

    I would like someone to explain to me how Haye manages to keep off an attacking Wlad who is looking just to take his head off?..

    Haye isn't that strong and he isn't that good of a counter puncher...Certainly can't rely on his defense...
    Well then it wasnt very good practice.

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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Wlad is saying he'll knock Haye out in the 12th round. I don't remember Wlad running his mouth for nothing in the past. I don't think he's doing it now. I think he means what he says and he is saying it to scare Haye and I think Haye better be scared.

    My prediction: Wlad will keep his word. Wlad will punish Haye for 11 rounds then Knock him out in the 12th. Unless Haye sees the writing on the wall and quits first. I don't think Haye has the wind to last 12 rounds with someone beating on him, but I can imagine Wlad holding him up 'til the 12th round if Haye fags out on him.

    Fighters as good as Ali and the Klits can predict rounds and get it right more often than not.

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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Funny how people are talking all the Haye KO's Wlad bullshit yet none want to keep in mind Haye has a soft chin himself and Wlad hits a hell of a lot harder then anything Haye has ever faced....

    We have never seen an angry aggressive Wlad...Wlad is always well controlled....Take that poise and add well controlled anger behind it and Haye is in trouble...As anyone else....

    I would like someone to explain to me how Haye manages to keep off an attacking Wlad who is looking just to take his head off?..

    Haye isn't that strong and he isn't that good of a counter puncher...Certainly can't rely on his defense...

    I'm sorry to say I don't see that happening for at least 10 rounds.

    I actually think the fight would be VERY anti climactic. Neither fighter would want to take any risks and Wlad would win with his jab alone.

    I know people seem to think it could be a barnburner but I highly highly doubt it. We saw how cautious Haye was against Valuev and Wlad is almost as big and twice as dangerous.

    Plus we've seen how cautious Wladimir is agiainst everybody.

    They will barely throw a meaningful punch between them for the first 6 rounds imo.

    The knockout may come, and it may be brutal, but it will be an end of fight affair like against Tony Thompson or Eddie Chambers imo, Wladmir isn't about to throw caution to the wind and open up on the most dangerous opponent he has faced since Sam Peter until there is literally nothing coming back, just not happening.

    And David Haye, for all his macho speak of knocking their heads off knows it's a suicide mission to try and engage head on with them. He'll fight the way he did against Valuev, looking to keep out of the way and dart in and out scoring punches. But Wlad's jab will nullify him and he'll just be like everyone else backed up in the corner and unable to get close.

    He may hit a bit harder than most of the other heavies but in terms of beating either Klitschko he brings nothing to the table that the other guys have brought. He'll go the same way.

    For the record, the fighter with the best chance to upset them is Odlanier Solis...
    When they were going to fight the first time Wlad said he wanted to take Haye 12 rounds to inflict the maximum long term damage on him. Maybe the Chambers fight was practice for that.

    ha actually I think it could be very similar to that. I do think a devastating ko like that is a possiblity, but I fully expect it to be preceeded by at least 10 rounds of plodding about the ring with Wlad pawing and Haye covering up.

    Let's be clear, this isn't going to be anything Vitali against Lennox Lewis as neither Haye or Wlad can stand up those kind of punches against each other, and importantly, they both know it.

    It will be cat and mouse, or more likely grass growing.

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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Funny how people are talking all the Haye KO's Wlad bullshit yet none want to keep in mind Haye has a soft chin himself and Wlad hits a hell of a lot harder then anything Haye has ever faced....

    We have never seen an angry aggressive Wlad...Wlad is always well controlled....Take that poise and add well controlled anger behind it and Haye is in trouble...As anyone else....

    I would like someone to explain to me how Haye manages to keep off an attacking Wlad who is looking just to take his head off?..

    Haye isn't that strong and he isn't that good of a counter puncher...Certainly can't rely on his defense...

    I'm sorry to say I don't see that happening for at least 10 rounds.

    I actually think the fight would be VERY anti climactic. Neither fighter would want to take any risks and Wlad would win with his jab alone.

    I know people seem to think it could be a barnburner but I highly highly doubt it. We saw how cautious Haye was against Valuev and Wlad is almost as big and twice as dangerous.

    Plus we've seen how cautious Wladimir is agiainst everybody.

    They will barely throw a meaningful punch between them for the first 6 rounds imo.

    The knockout may come, and it may be brutal, but it will be an end of fight affair like against Tony Thompson or Eddie Chambers imo, Wladmir isn't about to throw caution to the wind and open up on the most dangerous opponent he has faced since Sam Peter until there is literally nothing coming back, just not happening.

    And David Haye, for all his macho speak of knocking their heads off knows it's a suicide mission to try and engage head on with them. He'll fight the way he did against Valuev, looking to keep out of the way and dart in and out scoring punches. But Wlad's jab will nullify him and he'll just be like everyone else backed up in the corner and unable to get close.

    He may hit a bit harder than most of the other heavies but in terms of beating either Klitschko he brings nothing to the table that the other guys have brought. He'll go the same way.

    For the record, the fighter with the best chance to upset them is Odlanier Solis...
    More then likely it will play out that way but speaking in terms of just that what will happen if Wlad goes after him like that? He is a great finisher that we have not seen in a long long time...The Wlad before his KO loss to Sanders was brutal in delivering punishment

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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    One thing is for certain. Booth needs to spend the next few months teaching Haye how to put up an effective guard. If he goes into a Klitschko fight with the same guard that he used against Ruiz, it may end very messily.
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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    I don't understand why anyone thinks Haye stands a chance against either of them. Vitali absolutely murders him, while Wvlad paws him with a jab all night long. Haye stands less of chance against them than RJJ did when he was HW.
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    Default Re: Wladimir: Haye is the only fight I want now, not Peter,Povetkin or anyone

    Haye and the Klitschkos are in league with each other man, there is no doubt in my mind. One or the other fight will happen for sure. The Klitschko IMO are well aware of the kind of finances at stake with the fight. If they can make the money they do fighting out of shape crusierweights / Light Heavies then the money on show against Haye will be spot on.

    I would absolutely love to see Haye win though, unfortunately, the Klits are true Heavyweights, or even Super HW and I reckon after seeing all fail lately that Haye would struggle to get anywhere near inside to land. I don't remember Arreola, SafetyPin Johnson or Chambers get anywhere close to landing clean effective shots.

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