I hope people wont say "O mosley was old"

[Dark Lord Al]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

My first post says simply , if 39 isnt old for a WW / LMW then what is old ?
its a question , one which nobody has answerwed !

and i stick to the fact Mosley aged 39 will win .

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I'm gonna say that I want Shane to win, no doubt... I want him to Nonito Donaire Mayweathers ass and just catch him with a clean ass punch that knocks the taste out of his mouth... But Mosley will look old against Mayweather. I can see it now. Mayweather is not going to give him the extra second to connect like he did against Margarito. Margarito made Mosley look like the fastest guy on the planet. Mosley is quick but he will be countered effectivley all night. I hate Mayweather but I'll call it like I see it. I think Mosley has been on the solid decline fore sometime and, in fact, his speech is being effected. As quick as Mosley looks, Mayweather will be much faster. I hate Mayweather and love Mosley but people are getting their hopes up for yet another one sided fight. I want nothing better than to see Floyd go down in flames... If this fight happened 5 or 6 years ago... Maybe. But not now.

[fan johnny]

Shane is old but he has that toughness which shows us his true grit. I guess Foreman started "it", albeit the heavyweight field was crap when he regained the title. Old doesn't mean you're done. Boxing doesn't have the worlds most gifted athletes competing so sometimes that savvy wisdom can prevail over younger, stronger, faster and even those with more heart.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Shane is old but he has that toughness which shows us his true grit. I guess Foreman started "it", albeit the heavyweight field was crap when he regained the title. Old doesn't mean you're done. Boxing doesn't have the worlds most gifted athletes competing so sometimes that savvy wisdom can prevail over younger, stronger, faster and even those with more heart.

Again... I hate Mayweather but We'll see if savvy saves Mosley from getting the shit counter punched out of him. Nobody has more ring savvy than Floyd. Fact. Floyd can stop and switch his game plan at the drop of a hat, and we saw against Wright that Mosley isn't as skilled at this.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Shane is old but he has that toughness which shows us his true grit. I guess Foreman started "it", albeit the heavyweight field was crap when he regained the title. Old doesn't mean you're done. Boxing doesn't have the worlds most gifted athletes competing so sometimes that savvy wisdom can prevail over younger, stronger, faster and even those with more heart.

Again... I hate Mayweather but We'll see if savvy saves Mosley from getting the shit counter punched out of him. Nobody has more ring savvy than Floyd. Fact. Floyd can stop and switch his game plan at the drop of a hat, and we saw against Wright that Mosley isn't as skilled at this.

We saw mosley fighting too high...he adapted perfectly to pull out the first fight with oscar.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Shane is old but he has that toughness which shows us his true grit. I guess Foreman started "it", albeit the heavyweight field was crap when he regained the title. Old doesn't mean you're done. Boxing doesn't have the worlds most gifted athletes competing so sometimes that savvy wisdom can prevail over younger, stronger, faster and even those with more heart.

Again... I hate Mayweather but We'll see if savvy saves Mosley from getting the shit counter punched out of him. Nobody has more ring savvy than Floyd. Fact. Floyd can stop and switch his game plan at the drop of a hat, and we saw against Wright that Mosley isn't as skilled at this.

We saw mosley fighting too high...he adapted perfectly to pull out the first fight with oscar.

Regardless, he isn't able to adapt as fast as Mayweather can. I gree he was fighting too high.

[fan johnny]

Again... I hate Mayweather but We'll see if savvy saves Mosley from getting the shit counter punched out of him. Nobody has more ring savvy than Floyd. Fact. Floyd can stop and switch his game plan at the drop of a hat, and we saw against Wright that Mosley isn't as skilled at this.

We saw mosley fighting too high...he adapted perfectly to pull out the first fight with oscar.

Regardless, he isn't able to adapt as fast as Mayweather can. I gree he was fighting too high.

I would say Mayweather has better body control and is a more gifted athlete than Mosley. Mayweather fights the intention of looking more stylish in the ring directed toward observers (Judges). I would not say that he has more ring savvy. Another factor; Mayweather makes it abundantly clear that he is in it for the money. Mosley says he is in it to prove he is the best fighter. The criteria most use in making a p4p list often excludes a fighters pure desire to win. I didn't think Berto was more skilled or savvy than Quintana. I just think he was younger, stronger and had more desire to win. Quintana just couldn't keep up with that pace.

I think Mayweather cares more deeply how he looks in the ring because to him that translates into being the better boxer if it looks better. I think Mosley, thinks he is the better all around fighter and has more desire to win. If the old is not a factor in this fight and Mosley is able produce a better in the pace of the fight, I believe Mosley is going to prove he is the better fighter. De La Hoya was not able to do this when he fought Mayweather.

[RP33]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

My first post says simply , if 39 isnt old for a WW / LMW then what is old ?
its a question , one which nobody has answerwed !

and i stick to the fact Mosley aged 39 will win .

39 is definitely old for a fighter. That of course doesn't mean they can't turn in great performances, but it definitely is an age where you're going to be past your best.

but Al, did say, that he's choosing an old, past his best, Mosley to win the fight, which is fine. But that is stating, clearly, that he's acknowledging the age gap, and looking past it.. therefore if he says 'mayweather beat an old declining mosley, big deal!' after the fight, then it's a near non-credible opinion.

it's not like there is some unforeseen handicap that mosley will all of a sudden develop on fight night.. like the flu, or an injury.. it's already determined that he's the older fighter, and that he is past his prime, and that Al or anyone else who chooses him to win understands this and can't make excuses.

easy enough.

[Dark Lord Al]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

My first post says simply , if 39 isnt old for a WW / LMW then what is old ?
its a question , one which nobody has answerwed !

and i stick to the fact Mosley aged 39 will win .

39 is definitely old for a fighter. That of course doesn't mean they can't turn in great performances, but it definitely is an age where you're going to be past your best.

but Al, did say, that he's choosing an old, past his best, Mosley to win the fight, which is fine. But that is stating, clearly, that he's acknowledging the age gap, and looking past it.. therefore if he says 'mayweather beat an old declining mosley, big deal!' after the fight, then it's a near non-credible opinion.

it's not like there is some unforeseen handicap that mosley will all of a sudden develop on fight night.. like the flu, or an injury.. it's already determined that he's the older fighter, and that he is past his prime, and that Al or anyone else who chooses him to win understands this and can't make excuses.

easy enough.

Finally someone understands my post , unlike majesty the idiot.

[Spicoli]

Going in and based on what we know absolutely Floyd should get credit and no excuses made.Of course thats setting yourself for a Pratt fall in this sport....lets see the fight free of shitty scoring,half azz refing and how the fighters fight before we hand out gold stickers and scrutiny if its due.Mosley credentials at welter although long in the tooth are substantiated and fact,more so than Mayweather can state.

The biggest shame to me is that Mosley is almost made to sound a reluctant second option type fighter.The man is a hall of famer,one of the best of out era and certainly no default walk on simply because Manny and Mayweather couldn't stop the 'mines bigger than yours' ego filled diva bs to give the fans what they want.I think hes credible to match either one and will more than hold his own if not pull off a 'W' vs Mayweather.Personally and stylistically I'd take a Manny vs. Mosley scrap.

[Dark Lord Al]

For the record im picking this older version of Mosley to win , but im not going to use that as an excuse if he loses , but you would have to be a fool to think Shane wasnt a better fighter 7 years ago.
I am looking forward to this fight soooooooo much.

[Mar]

Better off starting a mosley excuse thread now. Mayweather will beat him easy everyone will bitch, pac will fight mosley after and it will be called the greatest fight in history. Sadly that's the way it goes. Oscar was the "floyd killer" before the fight and this and that after. Pac beats a smaller more drained version and the crowd cheers. Floyd ko's hatton and all of sudden it doesn't mean much cause he ducked this guy and that guy, pac does the same the crowd cheers again. Both guys are great fighters but people want floyd to loose so bad that one guy get's credit and the other one doesn't. Mayweather could beat mosley at 9am suit up and beat haye at 12 and by the time 4pm came around everyone would forget both and already be talking about the next guy in line that won't beat mayweather either.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Better off starting a mosley excuse thread now. Mayweather will beat him easy everyone will bitch, pac will fight mosley after and it will be called the greatest fight in history. Sadly that's the way it goes. Oscar was the "floyd killer" before the fight and this and that after. Pac beats a smaller more drained version and the crowd cheers. Floyd ko's hatton and all of sudden it doesn't mean much cause he ducked this guy and that guy, pac does the same the crowd cheers again. Both guys are great fighters but people want floyd to loose so bad that one guy get's credit and the other one doesn't. Mayweather could beat mosley at 9am suit up and beat haye at 12 and by the time 4pm came around everyone would forget both and already be talking about the next guy in line that won't beat mayweather either.

That's "Pretty Propaganda", Floyd gets all the credit he deserves period. Manny gets more credit because it didn't take him as long to fight guys that floyd should have already faced. Manny moved right up, and fought oscar, hatton, cotto, clottey....

Floyd moved up and fought, Judah, Baldomir, oscar , Hatton,..

Yeah floyd beat oscar and Hatton, but everyone that knows anything said before floyd even fought hatton, that he didnt carry the weight well at 147 it was very clear during the collazo fight. They both should get the same amount of credit for fighting a washed up oscar. Either way 147-154. ODLH WAS DONE and only cashing checks. Which leaves Cotto and clottey vs Judah and Balodmir... Now seriously which road was the easiest?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Better off starting a mosley excuse thread now. Mayweather will beat him easy everyone will bitch, pac will fight mosley after and it will be called the greatest fight in history. Sadly that's the way it goes. Oscar was the "floyd killer" before the fight and this and that after. Pac beats a smaller more drained version and the crowd cheers. Floyd ko's hatton and all of sudden it doesn't mean much cause he ducked this guy and that guy, pac does the same the crowd cheers again. Both guys are great fighters but people want floyd to loose so bad that one guy get's credit and the other one doesn't. Mayweather could beat mosley at 9am suit up and beat haye at 12 and by the time 4pm came around everyone would forget both and already be talking about the next guy in line that won't beat mayweather either.

That's "Pretty Propaganda", Floyd gets all the credit he deserves period. Manny gets more credit because it didn't take him as long to fight guys that floyd should have already faced. Manny moved right up, and fought oscar, hatton, cotto, clottey....

Floyd moved up and fought, Judah, Baldomir, oscar , Hatton,..

Yeah floyd beat oscar and Hatton, but everyone that knows anything said before floyd even fought hatton, that he didnt carry the weight well at 147 it was very clear during the collazo fight. They both should get the same amount of credit for fighting a washed up oscar. Either way 147-154. ODLH WAS DONE and only cashing checks. Which leaves Cotto and clottey vs Judah and Balodmir... Now seriously which road was the easiest?

This is like the abortion argument... It will never be resolved.



PS. The crowd will cheer loudest when and if Floyd is ever knocked completely unconsious... Which the sad truth may be we'll never see it.

Sad, really.