Yeah, Pavlik and Margarito are both swarmers but their punches are very different, Pavlik is much stronger, but Margarito is much better at cutting off the ring.Originally Posted by armin
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Yeah, Pavlik and Margarito are both swarmers but their punches are very different, Pavlik is much stronger, but Margarito is much better at cutting off the ring.
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Volume,maturity,styles.And I dont think Margarito has ever met a punch he didnt mind getting hit in the face with to land his own.
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Maybe margarito had loaded gloves back then also. Who the fukk nos. hope Martinez does fight him again so he can wip that cheating mutherfukkers ass
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Scary, but now that I think about it, I could really see Margarito-Martinez getting some attention. For me it would be a chance for Martinez to avenge him only loss.
Margarito would take any fight right now, though. He is just about zero reward. I want Martinez to defend the title once before taking on Williams in Atlantic City, where he was well receive Saturday!
Oh and the first Marg fight?? Martinez had only been fighting for about 4-5 years. Just shows how tough he is overall! How the hell did he get thrown in there with the Lions that early?
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Martinez really did not have an amateur career. At this point in his career, he was still learning while on the job.
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Exactley what I thought of. Margarito probably had bricks in his hands for this fight as well. Either way I would like to see a rematch with Pavlik or Margarito.
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It was a long time ago Martinez a different fighter then...Though he has always had the hands down style...If Pavlik was any quicker Martinez would have gotten caught more...Possibly KO'd...There were a few shots that he showed he felt....He stopped his showboating ASAP..Until Kelly was cut on the right eye...
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Yep definately 3 acts in that fight
ACT I. Martinez uses his speed and lateral movement to potshot and control
ACT II. Pavlik counters jab over jab and lands a few strong rights.
ACT III. A cut, blinded, and tired Pavlik has nothing left to retaliate with, but hangs in for the duration, Martinez takes is back under control.
Daxx, how much credit do you Martinez for this win?
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TBH I am not sure...I mean shit how can you not give a guy his deserved credit for winning the MW championship at a weight class not truly his but on the other hand....you have to thinkYep definately 3 acts in that fight
ACT I. Martinez uses his speed and lateral movement to potshot and control
ACT II. Pavlik counters jab over jab and lands a few strong rights.
ACT III. A cut, blinded, and tired Pavlik has nothing left to retaliate with, but hangs in for the duration, Martinez takes is back under control.
Daxx, how much credit do you Martinez for this win?
What IF the cut did not happen?
What IF Pavlik had not been so inactive and fighting only his mandatories over the last year?
Was this the BEST version of Kelly?
I am tough on fighters when it comes to big wins who don't have a really impressive past resume.....I give them more credit for the big win after I see what they do next....If they rematch and Martinez wins again then no way not to say...Kelly had an off night and Martinez had a great one....
The middle rounds Martinez seemed to be baffled after Pavlik seemed to figure him out....Martinez had no plan B (Neither did Pavlik but)
Great win for Martinez but is he really nothing more then just speedy?
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