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    Default Re: And NEW Middleweight Champion of the world...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Sergio Martinez !!!

    IT HAPPENED !

    Martinez outboxed Pavlik and cut him to ribbons.

    What an excellent performance.

    If you would have told me a few years ago that there was a guy out there I had never heard of who would go on to beat Cintron, Williams and Pavlik I wouldn't have beleived it.

    But Martinez is definately THE MAN.

    Fuck yeah !

    He didnt beat Williams or Cintron

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    Shit that puts a spanner in the works for 2 of Australia's top MW's... Apparently Daniel Geale had a shot lined up against Pavlik and Mundine apparently has been chasing a shot at Pavlik for about a yr now 2!

    Do u guys think I guess due to Martniez's relative obscurity from prime time boxing exposure in America, either of these 2 Aussies will get a shot at him? I mean they are both ranked quite highly respectively in the MW division?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themantonio View Post
    Shit that puts a spanner in the works for 2 of Australia's top MW's... Apparently Daniel Geale had a shot lined up against Pavlik and Mundine apparently has been chasing a shot at Pavlik for about a yr now 2!

    Do u guys think I guess due to Martniez's relative obscurity from prime time boxing exposure in America, either of these 2 Aussies will get a shot at him? I mean they are both ranked quite highly respectively in the MW division?
    Hard to say, Pavlik has a rematch clause with Martinez, Martinez has one with Paul Williams, HBO wants (or wanted?) Bute-Pavlik.... I think it might happen but not in a close future as there is a lot of clouds and potential rematches over there before the Aussies might have a shot at Martinez. Probably that in the end, it's all gonna go down to money.
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    Pavlik was very gracious after the fight and freely admitted he had been taken apart by the better man. He showed real class and may have won over some fans in losing. The thing is, however, that I believe I heard him say something between rounds that implied he was thinking of quiting. I hope not because if quit is in his DNA, he is in for some bad times. I don't see a rematch here--I see him moving up to Supermiddleweight where he has a decent shot of beating a few out there like Abraham and The Dane based on styles making fights, but he had better stay away from the likes of Ward, Dirrell, and especially Bute. He now needs to make serious decisons about his future. One more loss, and he is in dire straits career-wise. First thing I would do is get rid of my cut man. Second thing I'd do is work on my stance and ability to counter punch. Bottomline: Kelly Pavlik is no longer the next big thing in boxing. He still could be, but after Lockett, Old man Hopkins, Rubio, the terribly mismatched Espino, and now this loss to a super fighter whose uinusual style was no big secret coming in, Pavlik is badly in need of life support. That is all.

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    I just rewatched the fight.

    Pavlik did far better than i realised the first time. He actually had some success with his counter jab and he was able to land his right hand occasionally in the middle rounds. Unforenately for him, the cut occured and it was all seriously down hill from there.

    Pavlik should exercise his rematch clause. I'm not saying he will win a rematch but he would likely do much in a second fight.

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    Shouldn't Williams be the new champion, he earned the right and would have beaten this Pavlik.
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    Default Re: And NEW Middleweight Champion of the world...

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Shouldn't Williams be the new champion, he earned the right and would have beaten this Pavlik.
    I disagree.

    Williams lost to Martinez and got the gift decision.

    Williams is much easier to hit than Martinez, and a bit chinny IMO.

    It is unfair to Martinez to just assume that Williams could have done what he did last night.
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    Shouldn't Williams be the new champion, he earned the right and would have beaten this Pavlik.
    I disagree.

    Williams lost to Martinez and got the gift decision.

    Williams is much easier to hit than Martinez, and a bit chinny IMO.

    It is unfair to Martinez to just assume that Williams could have done what he did last night.
    I think your bang on there. Williams and Martinez fought neck and neck almost the whole way through, but I thought Martinez pulled it out by a round or two quite clearly in the end, although calling it a gift is a stretch. Either way, Martinez has now fought Williams and Pavlik back to back without ever being in real trouble. Williams got clocked badly in the 1st by Sergio and was damn lucky it was the end of that round, he was also getting tagged all the way through. There's no question Pavlik hits harder than either of the two, you'd have to give him a much better shot at stopping Williams, who incidently doesn't move nearly as well as Martinez and is easier to hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Pavlik was very gracious after the fight and freely admitted he had been taken apart by the better man.

    Is that what he said? LOL

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    I've been impressed with Martinez for awhile, more so since about the Bunema fight... I thought Pavlik would win this encounter but I'm glad I was wrong. You can now mark me down officially as a full on Martinez supporter & fan!!!
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    I think the announcers were giving Pavlik too much credit in the mid rounds saying he won like 5 in a row, I disagreed, he did win a few, but not THAT many. Overall, good fight. I really wanted to see Miranda win; I was really disappointed about that :/
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    Martinez is brilliant and has been since beating Saul Roman which IMO is when he bounced back into the radar with that win.
    Since then he never let off, the pic of he and I is after he beat Bunema.
    Really cool guy...
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    Anyone lucky enough to get a picture with CutMeMick is okay in my book.

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