" David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"

[killersheep]

If I was Wlad I would book another fight ASAP. No reason to wait for Haye, he's not the champ, who knows how long his "rest" will be and by the time he fights again it will probably be 2011.

[piye]

You guys are over reacting wait and see if negotiations happen.

[smashup]

If I was Wlad I would book another fight ASAP. No reason to wait for Haye, he's not the champ, who knows how long his "rest" will be and by the time he fights again it will probably be 2011.

Exactly my point.... He fought a few weeks ago so give it a chance to unfold a bit

are we forgetting the Champ called out the challenger here and went so far as to post it on youtube?

Wlad will do everything possible to fight him.

FACT

[Fenster]

Wlad can't make a fight that anyone cares about apart from Haye. That's the problem.

[killersheep]

Wlad can't make a fight that anyone cares about apart from Haye. That's the problem.

No but he can stay active and be the champ defending his throne, Haye will still be there in a year with the same payday.

In the meantime, there's Povetkin or even Valuev which would be a comparison match.

Wlad sells a lot of tickets at home, he sold out his last fight (51.5k) so it's not like he's going to be out a payday.

I think it weakens his negotiating position to sit around and wait for Haye.

[Fenster]

Wlad can't make a fight that anyone cares about apart from Haye. That's the problem.

No but he can stay active and be the champ defending his throne, Haye will still be there in a year with the same payday.

In the meantime, there's Povetkin or even Valuev which would be a comparison match.

Wlad sells a lot of tickets at home, he sold out his last fight (51.5k) so it's not like he's going to be out a payday.

I think it weakens his negotiating position to sit around and wait for Haye.

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

[Violent Demise]

Wlad can't make a fight that anyone cares about apart from Haye. That's the problem.

No but he can stay active and be the champ defending his throne, Haye will still be there in a year with the same payday.

In the meantime, there's Povetkin or even Valuev which would be a comparison match.

Wlad sells a lot of tickets at home, he sold out his last fight (51.5k) so it's not like he's going to be out a payday.

I think it weakens his negotiating position to sit around and wait for Haye.

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

[Fenster]

No but he can stay active and be the champ defending his throne, Haye will still be there in a year with the same payday.

In the meantime, there's Povetkin or even Valuev which would be a comparison match.

Wlad sells a lot of tickets at home, he sold out his last fight (51.5k) so it's not like he's going to be out a payday.

I think it weakens his negotiating position to sit around and wait for Haye.

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

[killersheep]

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

Like I said no way HBO televises a Haye fight until he fights in America.

He is completely an unknown here. Average sports fan out here has no idea who he is, therefore noone will pay for it, therefore no HBO.

[Violent Demise]

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

It's more like they need each other if they want HBO showing it. HBO has pretty much told Wlad, we'll call you. Don't call us. And it's told Haye we see right through your little charade. No thanks.

HBO ain't stupid. There not going to buy into the crap that comes out of the UK. They watch Show Time do it and get burned. People forget Show Time bought into the hype and picked up Haye-Enzo Macrap. Only to see it tank in the ratings when Enzo crashed and burn in his biggest fight of his life. When Haye couldn't sell out the arena against Monte Barrett it bacame obvious to HBO he was from hype than substance.

[killersheep]

Wlad can't make a fight that anyone cares about apart from Haye. That's the problem.

No but he can stay active and be the champ defending his throne, Haye will still be there in a year with the same payday.

In the meantime, there's Povetkin or even Valuev which would be a comparison match.

Wlad sells a lot of tickets at home, he sold out his last fight (51.5k) so it's not like he's going to be out a payday.

I think it weakens his negotiating position to sit around and wait for Haye.

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

I agree that's the only fight that means anything in the scheme of things.

HBO doesn't show Haye's fights either. To be honest even if Haye fights Wlad I can't say for certain it makes it on HBO. Haye is by far and large unknown in America and Klitschko hasn't inspired recently even though he's been dominant. If Haye wants to get on HBO he's going to fight in America at some point, that definately won't be the case if they fight each other.