" David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"

[Fenster]

No but he can stay active and be the champ defending his throne, Haye will still be there in a year with the same payday.

In the meantime, there's Povetkin or even Valuev which would be a comparison match.

Wlad sells a lot of tickets at home, he sold out his last fight (51.5k) so it's not like he's going to be out a payday.

I think it weakens his negotiating position to sit around and wait for Haye.

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

[killersheep]

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

Like I said no way HBO televises a Haye fight until he fights in America.

He is completely an unknown here. Average sports fan out here has no idea who he is, therefore noone will pay for it, therefore no HBO.

[Fenster]

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

Like I said no way HBO televises a Haye fight until he fights in America.

He is completely an unknown here. Average sports fan out here has no idea who he is, therefore noone will pay for it, therefore no HBO.

Yeah, Haye hasn't even fought in the States, obviously, but i'm sure that's intended with the Golden Boy link.

[killersheep]

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

Like I said no way HBO televises a Haye fight until he fights in America.

He is completely an unknown here. Average sports fan out here has no idea who he is, therefore noone will pay for it, therefore no HBO.

Yeah, Haye hasn't even fought in the States, obviously, but i'm sure that's intended with the Golden Boy link.

Please elaborate.

[Fenster]

Like I said no way HBO televises a Haye fight until he fights in America.

He is completely an unknown here. Average sports fan out here has no idea who he is, therefore noone will pay for it, therefore no HBO.

Yeah, Haye hasn't even fought in the States, obviously, but i'm sure that's intended with the Golden Boy link.

Please elaborate.

What? I'm sure Haye/Golden Boy want him to fight Stateside. Considering Golden Boy and HBO's relationship I expect Haye will fight on their station.

Maybe that wont happen if Wlad-Haye does. Which will be good for us fans

[killersheep]

Yeah, Haye hasn't even fought in the States, obviously, but i'm sure that's intended with the Golden Boy link.

Please elaborate.

What? I'm sure Haye/Golden Boy want him to fight Stateside. Considering Golden Boy and HBO's relationship I expect Haye will fight on their station.

Maybe that wont happen if Wlad-Haye does. Which will be good for us fans

I'm not counting on Haye fighting Wlad in 2010, nor am I expecting Haye to fight in America.

Here's the thing when Haye backed out on Klitschko fight the first time, HBO had already invested in publicity for him they had a short spot on him and included him in a 10 minute "boxing's new rising stars" segment. HBO took that as a big eff you from Haye when he didn't go through with the fight and that's something they won't forget.

Now of course if Haye brings enough money to the table then I'm sure they will change their view, but for now he has zero pull in the USA. Sure he's with golden boy, but you don't here anything from GBP plugging him, not a peep.

[generalbulldog]

Haye needs rest after going against John Ruiz, couldn't Wlad have waited for Haye, you know the Haye fans will spin this into something like that when Wlad decides enough with the bullshit and fights someone else this year.

[Fenster]

Please elaborate.

What? I'm sure Haye/Golden Boy want him to fight Stateside. Considering Golden Boy and HBO's relationship I expect Haye will fight on their station.

Maybe that wont happen if Wlad-Haye does. Which will be good for us fans

I'm not counting on Haye fighting Wlad in 2010, nor am I expecting Haye to fight in America.

Here's the thing when Haye backed out on Klitschko fight the first time, HBO had already invested in publicity for him they had a short spot on him and included him in a 10 minute "boxing's new rising stars" segment. HBO took that as a big eff you from Haye when he didn't go through with the fight and that's something they won't forget.

Now of course if Haye brings enough money to the table then I'm sure they will change their view, but for now he has zero pull in the USA. Sure he's with golden boy, but you don't here anything from GBP plugging him, not a peep.

Richard Schaefer has been all over promoting Haye's last couple of fights in Britain along with appearances from Oscar. They don't shut up about the "star" he will be Stateside. Maybe they are just branching into Europe?

Personally I couldn't give a fuck whether or not he fights in America. Certainly the Wlad fight wont happen there. The winner of Adamek-Doorman would be a good one though

[Violent Demise]

For sure Wlad can fight anyone in Germany and sell shit loads. But the only heavyweight fight that means anything is Haye.

HBO don't show Wlad's fights anymore, right?

The champ is chasing the challenger. Sad but true.

And they have yet to show any Haye fights correct? HBO could buy Haye fights if it wanted. It hasn't. HBO doesn't buy into the hype that Haye is all that big like he's made out to be

Haye has only had three heavyweight fights since moving up from cruiser. He has a deal with Golden Boy. The potential is there.

Wlad has bored his way out of HBO showing him.

Wlad needs Haye.

It's more like they need each other if they want HBO showing it. HBO has pretty much told Wlad, we'll call you. Don't call us. And it's told Haye we see right through your little charade. No thanks.

HBO ain't stupid. There not going to buy into the crap that comes out of the UK. They watch Show Time do it and get burned. People forget Show Time bought into the hype and picked up Haye-Enzo Macrap. Only to see it tank in the ratings when Enzo crashed and burn in his biggest fight of his life. When Haye couldn't sell out the arena against Monte Barrett it bacame obvious to HBO he was from hype than substance.