" David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"

[killersheep]

Says the English teacher.

Come on miles, you asked for that

An English teacher who has expectations about fighters in the sport he loves most, I might add. You don't see me cancelling lessons at the last minute because I'm not happy with certain students nor the money I myself originally negotiated.

I am a full time English teacher and a consummate pro in what I do. More than what can be said about part time Haye and his once a year approach to his own profession. There is no room for slacking in any profession, especially in one where your shelf life is so short.

I just think Haye should stay busy and push on for greatness. If he is serious about retiring at 31, where is the sense in taking any extended break in 2010 after beating the mighty John Ruiz? It makes no sense to me.

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

[Fenster]

An English teacher who has expectations about fighters in the sport he loves most, I might add. You don't see me cancelling lessons at the last minute because I'm not happy with certain students nor the money I myself originally negotiated.

I am a full time English teacher and a consummate pro in what I do. More than what can be said about part time Haye and his once a year approach to his own profession. There is no room for slacking in any profession, especially in one where your shelf life is so short.

I just think Haye should stay busy and push on for greatness. If he is serious about retiring at 31, where is the sense in taking any extended break in 2010 after beating the mighty John Ruiz? It makes no sense to me.

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

[killersheep]

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

[Fenster]

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

What was HBO paying him compared with Setanta?

[AdamGB]

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

[killersheep]

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

Understood, I'm not arguing any of that, but my point is still true. Haye's cut on a heavily hyped card (easily billed as the biggest heavyweight fight for a long time) would have exceeded whatever Setanta was going to pay him. Plus he would get a cut of the gate. Is it speculation? Sure, but it's not like HBO is going to pay a few thousand dollars to a fighter they had already spent tens of thousands promoting.

[Kirkland Laing]

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

Understood, I'm not arguing any of that, but my point is still true. Haye's cut on a heavily hyped card (easily billed as the biggest heavyweight fight for a long time) would have exceeded whatever Setanta was going to pay him. Plus he would get a cut of the gate. Is it speculation? Sure, but it's not like HBO is going to pay a few thousand dollars to a fighter they had already spent tens of thousands promoting.

HBO were paying the promotion a license feee, they weren't paying the boxers individually. And the way the fight contract worked was that Junior got almost everything other than the Setanta money for the fight and then about 10 000 options on Haye afterwards. Haye probably would have made enough from the non-Setanta revenue streams to cover his expenses but would have been basically fighting for free.