Could Floyd end his career as the best ever?

[amat]

There's no problem with you thinking Jones is the best ever to lace them up, there certainly aren't to many who are better. However, he hasn't beaten enough quality opponents to definitively prove that. That's my only point and that's why I took exception to Ruiz being a win that makes him the ATG. It was a great win but it was over an average fighter.

[Kev]

There's no problem with you thinking Floyd is the best ever to lace them up, there certainly aren't to many who are better. However, he hasn't beaten enough quality opponents to definitively prove that. That's my only point and that's why I took exception to Ruiz being a win that makes him the ATG. It was a great win but it was over an average fighter.

You mean Roy of course. You're being very vague and confusing today Amat

[amat]

There's no problem with you thinking Floyd is the best ever to lace them up, there certainly aren't to many who are better. However, he hasn't beaten enough quality opponents to definitively prove that. That's my only point and that's why I took exception to Ruiz being a win that makes him the ATG. It was a great win but it was over an average fighter.

You mean Roy of course. You're being very vague and confusing today Amat

No I'm talking about Dakota Fanning

Yes I'm a bit mixed up this Friday Night.

[JonesJrMayweather]

[quote=amat;870322]There's no problem with you thinking Jones is the best ever to lace them up, there certainly aren't to many who are better. However, he hasn't beaten enough quality opponents to definitively prove that. That's my only point and that's why I took exception to Ruiz being a win that makes him the ATG. It was a great win but it was over an average fighter.[/quote]


so were basillo, lamotta, graziano and gavilian...and he was average enough to win the heavy belt or a piece of it. Something many can't make a claim to have achieved which makes him above average...

[amat]

Are you that stupid? Are you really comparing those guys and saying they are on the level of John Ruiz? Did I just read that correctly? Those are HALL OF FAMERS.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Are you that stupid? Are you really comparing those guys and saying they are on the level of John Ruiz? Did I just read that correctly? Those are HALL OF FAMERS.

The question is are you? Just because they're in the HOF isn't the end all. Skillfully they were nothing compared to SRR. Qawi is in the HOF too but is he on the same level as Floyd or Jones?

[amat]

What are you talking about?

So you think all those guys are of comparable skill level to John Ruiz? Because whether you realize it or not that's why you said. If so then you have no business talking about those guys.

[generalbulldog]

This thread is turning into an who is the greatest p4p thread. Someone said Roy, I go with Duran for the modern era.

And someone in here thinks Floyd could fare well with Leonard, Hearns, Duran, and go 15 with Hagler.

Hey we all have our opinions, so I'll leave it at that.

Aint no right or wrong answer.

[match]

A world champion who defends his title against a part time cop waives his right to be all time greatest.