A world champion who defends his title against a part time cop waives his right to be all time greatest.
A world champion who defends his title against a part time cop waives his right to be all time greatest.
To answer the original question greatness is all relative. I get sick of people who discount modern day fighters due to them fighting less, when in fact if Ray Robinson were in his prime today he also would only be fighting at most twice a year, not twice in 9 days. Any fighter with a ridiculous amount of fights, even James Toney of today, the vast majority of those opponents are not even B level fighters. Ray Robinson should be the greatest of all time but not just based on his record, but based on the number of quality world class fighters he beat.
Youre fucking stupid..what do you think all the "contenders" do to make money until they earn a shot at the champ? THEY WORK BLUE COLLAR JOBS..In fact unless we're talking about a well groomed amateur fighter, most likely they will be blue collars workers that also box.
The problem that roy fought a man that was a part time cop, isnt roy's fault you can blame the sanctioning bodies for that.
People are so fucking stupid when it comes to the politics of modern boxing its annoying. Roy's isnt held to the highest regards because of his opponents? Get the fuck out of here, he's beaten more top ten and future champions than anyone. Roy's problem was that he didnt tie into any of the big name promoters that normally sell opponents as "legit". That's the only reason Tyson is even mentioned in any heavy ATG debate. Because Dong king was such a great promoter in making people believe those stiffs had a chance. Guess what Douglass was doing before he knocked Tyson the fuck out? He was a plumber or carpet layer...
The SMW tourney sums up the exact view of the old time fighters vs RJJ. A group of guys all worthy and capable of being champ and its very interesting to watch and an easy sell because of how close they all are in terms of being able to beat each other. This elevates all their stock because they're so close. Now you drop a phenom like Prime RJJ in there and no one would be interested because after he'd kTFO one of them inside 5 rounds then followed it up with another kayo, everyone would lose interest and say ohh they all werent that good anyway and RJJ should be fighting heavys because he hits too hard, he's too fast, he can't be hit flush, etc etc etc
Last edited by JonesJrMayweather; 05-01-2010 at 10:35 AM.
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
Sorry gay boy, but you've proven to be not only a Roy cocksucker, but also borderline illiterate. I said a 'WORLD CHAMPION.', not a journeyman stupid. Most world champions, especially those who at the time are considered the top p4p fighter in the world, fight full time boxers, now feel free to go fuck yourself![]()
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