There is no denying it....

**KKisser** · 05-02-2010 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

You'd have to have your head so far up floyd's ass that you couldnt see that shane was too old and tired even before floyd started to actually fight.

Shane was breathing with his mouth open from the third round on and this was before PBF started to do anything of significance. I stood up in a room full of people and yelled.. "shane's about to lose 10 rounds in a row"..its was so obvious. The fatigue.

Yes, Shane was 38, but this was the no.1 welter in the world with speed, power, and chin.

Would it be different if say this was the 28 year old Shane that fought Oscar? Maybe.

But you have to give credit where it's due, he dominated the no. 1 welter in the world.

shane needs his steroids.

**rjj tszyu** · 05-02-2010 06:55 AM

This is what I hate about boxing fans sometimes. Many people said Floyd was going to get beat in this fight because Mosley is too fast or too big or too good or whatever blah blah fucking blah. Now Floyd had his scare early on and I thought he did well to get by the second. But why now after the fight is Shane too old all of a sudden?? Mayweather had only had 1 fight in the last 2 and a half years so surely the ring rust has got to be even. Mayweather was the better man plain and simple and no one will give him the credit he is due until he's gone and then people will say about someone else .... Yes he's good but he wouldn't have beaten Floyd Mayweather.

Please people show some class and just admit Floyd was plain and simply the better man.

**JonesJrMayweather** · 05-02-2010 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

This is what I hate about boxing fans sometimes. Many people said Floyd was going to get beat in this fight because Mosley is too fast or too big or too good or whatever blah blah fucking blah. Now Floyd had his scare early on and I thought he did well to get by the second. But why now after the fight is Shane too old all of a sudden?? Mayweather had only had 1 fight in the last 2 and a half years so surely the ring rust has got to be even. Mayweather was the better man plain and simple and no one will give him the credit he is due until he's gone and then people will say about someone else .... Yes he's good but he wouldn't have beaten Floyd Mayweather.

Please people show some class and just admit Floyd was plain and simply the better man.

pretty easy to be better than an 38 year old tired punching bag..shane looked as bad as oscar did against pacman..

**Gandalf** · 05-02-2010 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

This is what I hate about boxing fans sometimes. Many people said Floyd was going to get beat in this fight because Mosley is too fast or too big or too good or whatever blah blah fucking blah. Now Floyd had his scare early on and I thought he did well to get by the second. But why now after the fight is Shane too old all of a sudden?? Mayweather had only had 1 fight in the last 2 and a half years so surely the ring rust has got to be even. Mayweather was the better man plain and simple and no one will give him the credit he is due until he's gone and then people will say about someone else .... Yes he's good but he wouldn't have beaten Floyd Mayweather.

Please people show some class and just admit Floyd was plain and simply the better man.

On the night Floyd was the better man. He won the fight by a landslide, what more can you want? I'm admitting it.

I for one am not flip flopping. I said before the fight I wanted Mosley to win, but I also made clear my reservations and those reservations were made glaringly obvious by what happened. Mosley had accumulated a lot of rust and couldn't get his punches off. He was old, he looked old and he fought old. Mayweather was in shape as usual and it showed in the fight.

It's like Hatton beating Vince Phillips. It's a good win on paper, but in hindsight would we say that was Phillips at his best. Obviously not. All a fighter can do is beat who is in front of him and fair play to Mayweather in that regard. He performed, he won.

**amat** · 05-02-2010 07:09 AM

To me, this looked like essentially the same Mosley from the Margarito fight.

**bigge233** · 05-02-2010 07:09 AM

I saw it differently, although i take nothing away from mayweather as i think he totally schooled shane... however shane looked terrible in the fight.. he was a nervous ball of energy from the opening bell and his constant moving and not being able to relax is why he tired himself out early on... he just couldnt relax and as a result he wasnt being his normal warrior self, the mosley that throws flurries and fights toe to toe was spent after the forth...however mayweather fought brilliantly and showed some balls tonight

**JonesJrMayweather** · 05-02-2010 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by bigge233

I saw it differently, although i take nothing away from mayweather as i think he totally schooled shane... however shane looked terrible in the fight.. he was a nervous ball of energy from the opening bell and his constant moving and not being able to relax is why he tired himself out early on... he just couldnt relax and as a result he wasnt being his normal warrior self, the mosley that throws flurries and fights toe to toe was spent after the forth...however mayweather fought brilliantly and showed some balls tonight

Exactly...just too hyped up. He kills himself with all of that stupid bouncing. And tried to step on the gas and couldn't go...I admit it if floyd went in and totally outboxed shane and broke him down, but shane was gassed before the PBF onslaught began...

**Gandalf** · 05-02-2010 07:14 AM

It also makes you look at Marquez, who was chubby even at LW, and you have to respect him for being such a tough son of a gun. He went all the way up to WW against an opponent who refused to make weight and hung in there right until the end. He didn't do that much worse than Mosley all things considered!

**Gandalf** · 05-02-2010 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by bigge233

I saw it differently, although i take nothing away from mayweather as i think he totally schooled shane... however shane looked terrible in the fight.. he was a nervous ball of energy from the opening bell and his constant moving and not being able to relax is why he tired himself out early on... he just couldnt relax and as a result he wasnt being his normal warrior self, the mosley that throws flurries and fights toe to toe was spent after the forth...however mayweather fought brilliantly and showed some balls tonight

You could tell with what Richardson was saying to Mosley between rounds that Shane was not relaxed from the start. Mosley didn't seem to respond to the advice being given to him in the corner very well either.

**doublehook2** · 05-02-2010 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by miles

You could tell with what Richardson was saying to Mosley between rounds that Shane was not relaxed from the start. Mosley didn't seem to respond to the advice being given to him in the corner very well either.

Mayweather called it. He said that Shane would be jittery and he was. Shane wasn't too jittery in the 1st and 2nd round, but once he started to get tagged by the Mayweather jab, out came the jitterbugs.

**Gandalf** · 05-02-2010 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by doublehook2

Originally Posted by miles

You could tell with what Richardson was saying to Mosley between rounds that Shane was not relaxed from the start. Mosley didn't seem to respond to the advice being given to him in the corner very well either.

Mayweather called it. He said that Shane would be jittery and he was. Shane wasn't too jittery in the 1st and 2nd round, but once he started to get tagged by the Mayweather jab, out came the jitterbugs.

That's true, Mosley became very jittery and hesitant too. They did their homework.

**Chino** · 05-02-2010 08:02 AM

For the people that say Shane was too old, not as good as before, etc. I wonder if they thought that during the first 2 rounds specially when he nailed Floyd with a right that almost sent him to the canvas.

**Majesty** · 05-02-2010 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Chino

For the people that say Shane was too old, not as good as before, etc. I wonder if they thought that during the first 2 rounds specially when he nailed Floyd with a right that almost sent him to the canvas.

Nope , only afterwards... they will use the first two rounds to say a prime Shane would knock out Floyd of course though

**Althugz** · 05-02-2010 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

This is what I hate about boxing fans sometimes. Many people said Floyd was going to get beat in this fight because Mosley is too fast or too big or too good or whatever blah blah fucking blah. Now Floyd had his scare early on and I thought he did well to get by the second. But why now after the fight is Shane too old all of a sudden?? Mayweather had only had 1 fight in the last 2 and a half years so surely the ring rust has got to be even. Mayweather was the better man plain and simple and no one will give him the credit he is due until he's gone and then people will say about someone else .... Yes he's good but he wouldn't have beaten Floyd Mayweather.

Please people show some class and just admit Floyd was plain and simply the better man.

Just give up ever expecting these people to give Floyd credit dude - These will also be the same people who say "No, seriously, if Floyd beats Mosley I will definitely give him credit!"

Then come in here with the same, he's tired/old/overtrained/didn't eat his lucky charms this morning.

It's the same old ritual that follows every PBF fight when he dominates in such big fashion.