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    Default Re: Someone needs to explain to me why Floyd doesn't deserve to be mentioned with ATG

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    Whether he ducked opposition is subjective but it doesnt always seem that Floyd's top objective is fighting the best. He didnt fight Hatton at 140 and didnt seem in any kind of rush to fight Margarito or Cotto back a few years ago when the fans demanded those fights. Now with the demands for rigorous blood testing, Floyd, in some peoples minds will appear as though he is afraid of Pac. Personally I believe Floyd would dominate Pac and should just take the dam fight.
    Why did floyd have to fight Hatton at 140? I believe Hatton needed that fight more than Floyd, Floyd was ranked no 1 P4P best in the world so why would he fight at someone elses weight? Hatton wanted to prove he was the best so he had to beat the best at their own weight. We all saw what Mosley did to Margarito, Mayweather would of beaten the shit out of him and same with Cotto. He is a different class all together. I think you can only say someone ducked a fighter when the fighter they supposedly ducked is actually a threat. How was Margarito, Hatton at 140 and Cotto a threat? What did we actually see that showed this guys could hang with floyd at all? Cotto would of been systematically dismantled and tkoed very similiar to what Floyd did to hatton.
    I completely agree, all of the 'Mayweather beaters' Floyd has allegedly dodged have been exposed as overrated hype products pretty much.

    The way it seems to work is that Floyd beats up someone so that was clearly a handpicked opponent and the guys he hasn't fought yet are the world beaters.

    There is NOBODY from superfeatherweight to welterweight who was around during Floyd's career that could have beaten him.

    Look at the tests, Coralles annihilated, Hatton humiliated, Mosely schooled, these are all great fighters and the got there asses handed to them by Floyd.
    Was not the case...and history will read it as mosley was 38 and got old..couldn't even do what made him shane mosley his whole career..
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    Default Re: Someone needs to explain to me why Floyd doesn't deserve to be mentioned with ATG

    I don't think it matters who he fights at this stage, nobody is ever going to outbox him. The only chance he has of losing imo is if he fights somebody much naturally bigger and gets stopped.

    I can't name 10 fighters in history that have the talent this guy has, he is definitely top 10 of all time imo. He belongs in the same breathe (and above a lot) of these guys

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    Default Re: Someone needs to explain to me why Floyd doesn't deserve to be mentioned with ATG

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
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    Why did floyd have to fight Hatton at 140? I believe Hatton needed that fight more than Floyd, Floyd was ranked no 1 P4P best in the world so why would he fight at someone elses weight? Hatton wanted to prove he was the best so he had to beat the best at their own weight. We all saw what Mosley did to Margarito, Mayweather would of beaten the shit out of him and same with Cotto. He is a different class all together. I think you can only say someone ducked a fighter when the fighter they supposedly ducked is actually a threat. How was Margarito, Hatton at 140 and Cotto a threat? What did we actually see that showed this guys could hang with floyd at all? Cotto would of been systematically dismantled and tkoed very similiar to what Floyd did to hatton.
    I completely agree, all of the 'Mayweather beaters' Floyd has allegedly dodged have been exposed as overrated hype products pretty much.

    The way it seems to work is that Floyd beats up someone so that was clearly a handpicked opponent and the guys he hasn't fought yet are the world beaters.

    There is NOBODY from superfeatherweight to welterweight who was around during Floyd's career that could have beaten him.

    Look at the tests, Coralles annihilated, Hatton humiliated, Mosely schooled, these are all great fighters and the got there asses handed to them by Floyd.
    Was not the case...and history will read it as mosley was 38 and got old..couldn't even do what made him shane mosley his whole career..
    Because Floyd didn't allow him to. If Floyd had ran and danced away and allowed Mosley to regain himself like Mosley thought he would and fought Mosley's pace like Margarito did it would have ended the same way. Mayweather pressuring Mosley after he was stunned and into the 3rd round onwards is the reason Mosley got old.

    If Mosley got old Mayweather put him in the rocking chair.

    You can't say "mosley got old" in an attempt to take credit from Floyd. he sure as heck didn't look old in the second round, but Mayweather pressures him back and takes the fight away from him and its "Mosley got old" yeah like father time decided that he was gonna keep Mosley young for 2 rounds only and Mayweather had nothing to do with it. If Mosley got old, Mayweather put him there.

    There was a reason he could do what made him Shane Mosley for years against Margarito yet couldn't against Mayweather.

    Because Margarito fought his pace and it allowed him to, while Floyd took it away from him, simple as that. Mosley couldn't do what made him Shane Mosley because Mayweather didn't allow him to.
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