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    Default Re: P4P Rankings are tough to calculate now.

    I calculate my P4P lists differently based more on talent then accomplishments. Of course accomplishments are factored in but honestly these are who I believe the 10 best fighters in boxing are who are at least champions. Guys with more accomplishments (Marquez, Bradley) though are given the benefit of a higher position.

    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Timothy Bradley
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Paul Williams
    6. Sergio Martinez
    7. Andre Ward
    8. Juanma Lopez
    9. Wladimir Klitschko
    10. Chad Dawson
    11. Nonito Donaire
    12. Lucian Bute
    13. Fernando Montiel
    14. Chris John
    15. Celistino Caballero
    16. Yohnny Perez
    17. Shane Mosley
    18. Poonsawat Kraetingdaenggym (the best fighter from Thailand in the last 10 years imo even though I haven't seen his last fight)
    19. Arthur Abraham (I have him ahead of Dirrell because I think he beats more fighters then Dirrell)
    20. Miguel Cotto

    You could pretty much arrange 4-20 however way you want to imo.

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    Default Re: P4P Rankings are tough to calculate now.

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    I calculate my P4P lists differently based more on talent then accomplishments. Of course accomplishments are factored in but honestly these are who I believe the 10 best fighters in boxing are who are at least champions. Guys with more accomplishments (Marquez, Bradley) though are given the benefit of a higher position.

    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Timothy Bradley
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Paul Williams
    6. Sergio Martinez
    7. Andre Ward
    8. Juanma Lopez
    9. Wladimir Klitschko
    10. Chad Dawson
    11. Nonito Donaire
    12. Lucian Bute
    13. Fernando Montiel
    14. Chris John
    15. Celistino Caballero
    16. Yohnny Perez
    17. Shane Mosley
    18. Poonsawat Kraetingdaenggym (the best fighter from Thailand in the last 10 years imo even though I haven't seen his last fight)
    19. Arthur Abraham (I have him ahead of Dirrell because I think he beats more fighters then Dirrell)
    20. Miguel Cotto

    You could pretty much arrange 4-20 however way you want to imo.
    I like this list but you are damn big on Bradley. I'm not confident he will even be champ at 140 past 2010 to be honest.

    I think Devon Alexander gives him fits. He'd not compete at welter either imo.

    I think you're overating him a lot. Even Amir beats him imo.

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    Default Re: P4P Rankings are tough to calculate now.

    No way. I'd say Bradley behind Pacquiao is the most rapidly improving boxer in boxing. You look at him versus Peterson and him versus Witter and it's two completely different fighters. He's the ultimate volume punching guy these days and he would absolutely drown Amir Khan. Khan doesn't have any seasoning, Bradley's whole style is to expose that.

    I've been as high on Alexander as anyone but Bradley is a tall task I hope that fight happens.

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    Default Re: P4P Rankings are tough to calculate now.

    What's sad is Valero would have been high on my list and I also thought of him as one of the most improving fighters, probably right behind Bradley.

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    Default Re: P4P Rankings are tough to calculate now.

    I struglled with my top 10, now I'm glad I'm not alone.

    3-10 is tough, 10-20 is near impossible to seperate.

    I go for current skills though over past accomplishments. The past doesn't mean much, it's all about who would beat who based on skills, style and ability if weight was equal.

    IMO Haye would beat most as he can bang and he can move.

    The Klitches are hard to fathom, not only because they have fought poor fighters, but because they haven't had the fighters to fight.

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    Default Re: P4P Rankings are tough to calculate now.

    I'm gonna ask one of the MODs to merge this into the Pound For Pound votes thread, seeing as there's a few here & no point people doing it again, if that's cool with you Bilbo?

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