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Re: P4P Rankings are tough to calculate now.
No as I clearly stated accomplishments do factor in, an unproven guy won't make it but honestly do you think B-Hop is one of the 5 best fighters in the world right now? You're giving in to the fact that he hasn't lost in a bit even though he's been made to look shit.Originally Posted by Bilbo
What criteria? Like I said, I believe p4p to be the best fighters in the world regardless of what they've done in the ring. It's more of a judge on talent then actual accomplishments, I leave that to 'greatest' lists. Martinez is 1-1-1 and could very wello be 3-0, the fact that he has the draw is a TRAVESTY. If you look at B Hop in the ring and then Martinez in the ring, who is the better more talented fighter? It's not even close it's Martinez.
If you limit that criteria to 'has won a title' like I did, then you get a more fair criteria and you judge actual p4p talent rather then stacking accomplishments against each other.
I think that's a ridiculous way to judge the rankings. It's no longer a rankings list but a predictions list.
Why not have Gamboa, Kell Brook, Devon Alexander all in the top 10? Hell I reckon that cashflow is going to be special in another 15 years or so....
Of course you have to take into account acomplishments, otherwise what is the point of acomplishments?
Predictions are subjective as are these lists, that's all they share in common. It's who I believe the best proven fighters in the world are. Go look at my list and tell me those aren't 20 very talented fighters worthy of acclaim. I don't have B-Hop on there because I don't think he's one of the 20 best fighters in the world right now, I'm not going to let big wins from years past cloud my judgement on whether he's the best or not, I find you're method of judging to be ridiculous just look at your argument against Martinez. Saying the middleweight champion can't be one of the 10 best fighters because he's 1-1-1 while other guys might be 3-0 is ridiculous. A different set of judges and he's possibly 3-0 or 2-0-1 or 2-1 with a knockout of Kermit Cintron rather then a draw.
What's your 'strict' criteria Bilbo if you want to call me ridiculous. This is why you piss me off on the boxing board sometimes with your generalities, go look at my list and tell me where to find Gamboa and AlexanderI'm using my own judgement here not following some stupid little boxrec formula.
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