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Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
P4P rankings are subjective, but only in accordance with strict criteria. B Hop's resume speaks for itself.

What criteria? Like I said, I believe p4p to be the best fighters in the world regardless of what they've done in the ring. It's more of a judge on talent then actual accomplishments, I leave that to 'greatest' lists. Martinez is 1-1-1 and could very wello be 3-0, the fact that he has the draw is a TRAVESTY. If you look at B Hop in the ring and then Martinez in the ring, who is the better more talented fighter? It's not even close it's Martinez.

If you limit that criteria to 'has won a title' like I did, then you get a more fair criteria and you judge actual p4p talent rather then stacking accomplishments against each other.
I think that's a ridiculous way to judge the rankings. It's no longer a rankings list but a predictions list.

Why not have Gamboa, Kell Brook, Devon Alexander all in the top 10? Hell I reckon that cashflow is going to be special in another 15 years or so....

Of course you have to take into account acomplishments, otherwise what is the point of acomplishments?
The P4P lists are evolving. The thing is that promoters and others have discovered that although they are/were Hypothetical and Mythical that they do in fact carry value. And now that can be exploited.

People keep referring to the Ring Magazine as the bible of boxing thus it carries more credibility as a list.

Next comes the politics. (I define politics as "vying to get what you want".)