People who use the Race Card and Race Baiters

[ono]

Yeah i agree with most of this, but it also annoys me when people act like racism doesn't exist just because they're not racists themselves.

Chris Rock can get away with what he does now, but in the future i imagine his style of comedy could be frowned upon much like Chubby Brown's and Bernard Manning's. The reason Rock is getting away with it is down to history really. There's a history of black people being treated badly by white people, so it's almost like we're in a period where it's acceptable for a black man to generalise about a white man. In a way, we're lucky that guys like Rock and other black comedians joke about what's happened, but i imagine in the future that it won't be acceptable.

All in all, i don't think racism even in comedy routines/jokes is acceptable as it promotes casual racism, which to you, may not seem so bad but actually it's quite dangerous.

I hear people every day using casual racism, but if you asked them about it they'd tell you they're not racists until they're blue in the face. Stuff like 'Fucking Paki's', said casually in reaction to a story on the news etc. It rubs off on other people and over time it becomes dangerous.

So yeah, whilst i agree with many of the sentiments in this thread, i also get equally annoyed at people who think it doesn't really exist and people who can't see the problem because they're not a racist themselves.

Is that pretty much you saying that day to day racism doesnt actually occur and that the only time someone can here something which can be classed as racism is at a comedy club??

If so you`ve obviously never been to a pub in your entire life

No. How did you get that from that?

I'm saying that casual racism in comedy shows, tv shows, and even films is more dangerous because it reaches a much wider audience than a pub for example.

I don't go to the pub often because i can't be arsed listening to uneducated halfwits talk about the countires in the shit because of the Darkies' and the Pole's.

[HattonTheHammer]

Yeah i agree with most of this, but it also annoys me when people act like racism doesn't exist just because they're not racists themselves.

Chris Rock can get away with what he does now, but in the future i imagine his style of comedy could be frowned upon much like Chubby Brown's and Bernard Manning's. The reason Rock is getting away with it is down to history really. There's a history of black people being treated badly by white people, so it's almost like we're in a period where it's acceptable for a black man to generalise about a white man. In a way, we're lucky that guys like Rock and other black comedians joke about what's happened, but i imagine in the future that it won't be acceptable.

All in all, i don't think racism even in comedy routines/jokes is acceptable as it promotes casual racism, which to you, may not seem so bad but actually it's quite dangerous.

I hear people every day using casual racism, but if you asked them about it they'd tell you they're not racists until they're blue in the face. Stuff like 'Fucking Paki's', said casually in reaction to a story on the news etc. It rubs off on other people and over time it becomes dangerous.

So yeah, whilst i agree with many of the sentiments in this thread, i also get equally annoyed at people who think it doesn't really exist and people who can't see the problem because they're not a racist themselves.

Is that pretty much you saying that day to day racism doesnt actually occur and that the only time someone can here something which can be classed as racism is at a comedy club??

If so you`ve obviously never been to a pub in your entire life

No. How did you get that from that?

I'm saying that casual racism in comedy shows, tv shows, and even films is more dangerous because it reaches a much wider audience than a pub for example.

I don't go to the pub often because i can't be arsed listening to uneducated halfwits talk about the countires in the shit because of the Darkies' and the Pole's.

So does seeing a naked lady on tv make me want to disrespect women?, does watching an episode of the bill where the baddys a black chap make me hate black people?

Surely the moment you reach 17/18 you learn to take most things displayed in modern media with a pinch of salt?

[ono]

Is that pretty much you saying that day to day racism doesnt actually occur and that the only time someone can here something which can be classed as racism is at a comedy club??

If so you`ve obviously never been to a pub in your entire life

No. How did you get that from that?

I'm saying that casual racism in comedy shows, tv shows, and even films is more dangerous because it reaches a much wider audience than a pub for example.

I don't go to the pub often because i can't be arsed listening to uneducated halfwits talk about the countires in the shit because of the Darkies' and the Pole's.

So does seeing a naked lady on tv make me want to disrespect women?, does watching an episode of the bill where the baddys a black chap make me hate black people?

Surely the moment you reach 17/18 you learn to take most things displayed in modern media with a pinch of salt?

Fuck yes. You're post history probably backs this up.

Seriously no it probably doesn't, but i reckon when you see her, if your mates were there, you'd say something along the lines of 'i'd smash that'. Half joking. Actually, you probably wouldn't be joking. That comment in itself is pretty disrespectful to some women - none that you've got any chance with mind




That's the problem, i don't think people do take what they read in the papers with a pinch of salt.

[ICB]

I actually don't mind racism jokes if its about white's/black's ETC. And i actually enjoy old series like Love Thy Neighbour, Till Death Do Us Part, ETC.

[Oggie]

No point being sensitive about where you're from or who you are, it's stupid. The people who are sensitive in my opinion have an inferiority complex and suffer from self esteem issues. We should try to look on the bright side of everything in life, instead of working ourselves into a frenzy about sound waves coming from someone's mouth.

I never feel any kind of hurt, or take any offence if people pull out the Irish stereotypes (We're all working class ginger drunks who contribute nothing towards the advancement of the human race. ) All I do is laugh it off, whether it be a joke or genuine hate towards me. As the thread starter said, when people have to resort to pulling out the race card in a hateful way, you know they have their own issues to deal with and any argument from that moment on is null and void.

[ICB]

No point being sensitive about where you're from or who you are, it's stupid. The people who are sensitive in my opinion have an inferiority complex and suffer from self esteem issues. We should try to look on the bright side of everything in life, instead of working ourselves into a frenzy about sound waves coming from someone's mouth.

I never feel any kind of hurt, or take any offence if people pull out the Irish stereotypes (We're all working class ginger drunks who contribute nothing towards the advancement of the human race. ) All I do is laugh it off, whether it be a joke or genuine hate towards me. As the thread starter said, when people have to resort to pulling out the race card in a hateful way, you know they have their own issues to deal with and any argument from that moment on is null and void.

Oggie is right on the money as usual good post, i'll rep you when i can.

[Youngblood]

No point being sensitive about where you're from or who you are, it's stupid. The people who are sensitive in my opinion have an inferiority complex and suffer from self esteem issues. We should try to look on the bright side of everything in life, instead of working ourselves into a frenzy about sound waves coming from someone's mouth.

I never feel any kind of hurt, or take any offence if people pull out the Irish stereotypes (We're all working class ginger drunks who contribute nothing towards the advancement of the human race. ) All I do is laugh it off, whether it be a joke or genuine hate towards me. As the thread starter said, when people have to resort to pulling out the race card in a hateful way, you know they have their own issues to deal with and any argument from that moment on is null and void.

over/under Oggie was drunk when he wrote this?

[Oggie]

No point being sensitive about where you're from or who you are, it's stupid. The people who are sensitive in my opinion have an inferiority complex and suffer from self esteem issues. We should try to look on the bright side of everything in life, instead of working ourselves into a frenzy about sound waves coming from someone's mouth.

I never feel any kind of hurt, or take any offence if people pull out the Irish stereotypes (We're all working class ginger drunks who contribute nothing towards the advancement of the human race. ) All I do is laugh it off, whether it be a joke or genuine hate towards me. As the thread starter said, when people have to resort to pulling out the race card in a hateful way, you know they have their own issues to deal with and any argument from that moment on is null and void.

over/under Oggie was drunk when he wrote this?

I'm comfortably merry.

[ono]

No point being sensitive about where you're from or who you are, it's stupid. The people who are sensitive in my opinion have an inferiority complex and suffer from self esteem issues. We should try to look on the bright side of everything in life, instead of working ourselves into a frenzy about sound waves coming from someone's mouth.

I never feel any kind of hurt, or take any offence if people pull out the Irish stereotypes (We're all working class ginger drunks who contribute nothing towards the advancement of the human race. ) All I do is laugh it off, whether it be a joke or genuine hate towards me. As the thread starter said, when people have to resort to pulling out the race card in a hateful way, you know they have their own issues to deal with and any argument from that moment on is null and void.

To be fair, you're going to suffer self esteem issues if people are treating you differently because of your ethnic background. Not everybody has a 'get on with it' attitude.

[Oggie]

No point being sensitive about where you're from or who you are, it's stupid. The people who are sensitive in my opinion have an inferiority complex and suffer from self esteem issues. We should try to look on the bright side of everything in life, instead of working ourselves into a frenzy about sound waves coming from someone's mouth.

I never feel any kind of hurt, or take any offence if people pull out the Irish stereotypes (We're all working class ginger drunks who contribute nothing towards the advancement of the human race. ) All I do is laugh it off, whether it be a joke or genuine hate towards me. As the thread starter said, when people have to resort to pulling out the race card in a hateful way, you know they have their own issues to deal with and any argument from that moment on is null and void.

To be fair, you're going to suffer self esteem issues if people are treating you differently because of your ethnic background. Not everybody has a 'get on with it' attitude.

You're talking to an Irish person here man, 'my people' were the b*tches of the British Empire for 800 years. I come from one of those ethnic backgrounds you mentioned.

I could be one of those people that feel they are somehow owed one by the Empire (as sadly, a lot of Irish do), but what is the point? It has nothing to do with me, it was a different era with different people. Why should I feel resentment towards people that have done nothing to me personally? In that case we would never learn from our mistakes and irrational hatred would continue forever.

I've gotten all the jokes about being Irish, spud-munching, bogtrotting gingerbread men. I've also had genuine spite and hatred thrown my way because I'm Irish, but the best thing for yourself and the thing that annoys racists more than anything is when you laugh it off. While they are wasting their time boiling their blood with negativity, I'm out enjoying life and not giving a damn what they say

At the end of the day, if someone has a go at someone because they are of a different skin colour, ancestry, culture etc... it is a problem that reflects on them, rather than the victim. They have put themselves below the victim of their attacks by being the height of ignorance, a racist. Therefore, I consider myself better than them and any shred of inferiority on my part is nowhere to be seen.

[Andre]

I actually don't mind racism jokes if its about white's/black's ETC. And i actually enjoy old series like Love Thy Neighbour, Till Death Do Us Part, ETC.

Those old shows did alot towards bringing the conversation out into the open and onto an even playing field.

[katfight]

[quote=ono;874857]

Yeah i agree with most of this, but it also annoys me when people act like racism doesn't exist just because they're not racists themselves.

Chris Rock can get away with what he does now, but in the future i imagine his style of comedy could be frowned upon much like Chubby Brown's and Bernard Manning's. The reason Rock is getting away with it is down to history really. There's a history of black people being treated badly by white people, so it's almost like we're in a period where it's acceptable for a black man to generalise about a white man. In a way, we're lucky that guys like Rock and other black comedians joke about what's happened, but i imagine in the future that it won't be acceptable.

All in all, i don't think racism even in comedy routines/jokes is acceptable as it promotes casual racism, which to you, may not seem so bad but actually it's quite dangerous.

I hear people every day using casual racism, but if you asked them about it they'd tell you they're not racists until they're blue in the face. Stuff like 'Fucking Paki's', said casually in reaction to a story on the news etc. It rubs off on other people and over time it becomes dangerous.

So yeah, whilst i agree with many of the sentiments in this thread, i also get equally annoyed at people who think it doesn't really exist and people who can't see the problem because they're not a racist themselves.

Is that pretty much you saying that day to day racism doesnt actually occur and that the only time someone can here something which can be classed as racism is at a comedy club??

If so you`ve obviously never been to a pub in your entire life

No. How did you get that from that?

I'm saying that casual racism in comedy shows, tv shows, and even films is more dangerous because it reaches a much wider audience than a pub for example.

I don't go to the pub often because i can't be arsed listening to uneducated halfwits talk about the countires in the shit because of the Darkies' and the Pole's.[/quote]



hahahahaha classic i'd rep u if i could but i cant lmao lmao