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    Default Re: Few Things About Last Night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
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    Right firstly i want to discuss Antonio Margarito, there's no doubt in mind. Antonio Margarito had hardened wraps in quite a few of his fights, last night he showed no real power at all. And come nowhere close to stopping his opponent, nor could he bust him up. Despite hitting him with every punch in the book.

    The positives are that Antonio Margarito's defense, had tightened up. And his handspeed looked a shade quicker. But now he's power has been exposed, i don't think he will be anywhere near as effective.

    As for Kermit Cintron now im going to be a very small percentage here, but i think Kermit Cintron would of won. And before the fight i thought he had a good shot aswell.

    He was outboxing Paul Williams in the first 3 rounds, and when Paul Williams tried to up the pace in the 4th round. Kermit Cintron greeted him with some nice solid hard counters.

    Paul Williams wouldn't of been able to just walk him down, as i've said in other threads there is a reason he was more hesistant than usual. And thats because he's never been in with a puncher.

    Well maybe except for Walter Dario Matthysse, but i think Kermit Cintron hits harder than him. Plus he never really had the skills to test his chin, like Kermit Cintron would of done.

    Im still not sold on Paul Williams chin, he's been stunned by non punches like Martinez, Mitchell. So who knows how his chin would of held up.
    I think Williams seemed to be getting hit clean with the counter right from Cintron and was definately buzzed once. Williams qent down heavy against Martinez so Cintron for sure could have shocked him last night.

    On a side note with the Margo thing, not seen the fight yet, but, if you think he's been using the wraps for a while, maybe Cintron, Cotto, i'd have to suggest Lujan just cause of the ear man, but how the hell has he been getting away with it and it not been spotted by anyone atall till Shane. I don't understand, I thought someone checks the hand wrapping before every fight and the wraps are checked after the fight too? Fill me in here......
    IM not sure how Antonio 'Drywall' Margacetto did it:
    but when you think about casting plaster if you had damp white colored wraps then just dusted the white powder over the wraps each side of them so it stuck there; you could carry the wraps in and none of the powder would fall off then it would only build up layer by layer and would be hard to detect until some squeezed out as paste. If you had talc powder in a can it would be a good trick to put your mind off the ruse too.
    If you got away with doing that, by the time all the kerfuffle in the ring walk and talk and the song was over it would be set hard.

    In the old days in street fighting just a roll of small coins in your palm would put more weight into your punch.
    Man, I get what your sayin, I just find it a bit hard to believe that whoever checks the hand wraps could be so poor at their job to not spot anything wrong for so long, it just doesn't add up atall......

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    Default Re: Few Things About Last Night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    The first 3 1/2 rounds were close imo.

    Williams boxed early then turned it up in the 4th.

    After seeing what Williams was able to do in the 4th, i feel Williams would of pressured and punched until Cintron was stopped. Cintron would land some big shots throughout but Williams toughness would of got him through it.

    If the rematch happens, Williams stops Cintron in 9.
    Totally agree with that.

    Williams would have stepped it up and started throwing 80-90 punches per round and though Cintron would have countered, he would have been getting hit a lot more. He wouldn't have stopped Williams and wouldn't have kept up with the output.

    I agree with Ice that Margarito has no power and this confirms in my mind that he has been using the wraps in previous fights. He didn't go from being an average puncher to being one who can bust up the worlds best just like that.

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    Default Re: Few Things About Last Night.

    There is no way you can take any judgements away from that fight, fights go 12 rounds for a reason and off 4 rounds we know Williams can deal with adversity at the top level, we don't know that with Cintron. Neither guy had established any sort of rhythm yet and it was in it's infant stages still.

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