There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

[Gandalf]

I'm def not a Pavlik fan but if Librado Andrade can KO Bute, then so can Pavlik.

I don't think Pavlik would be a lamb led to the slaughter against Bute.

He would have a good chance of winning.

Come on Hulk my man if small Martinez can rough up and outbox imagine what Bute would do, add to that Pavlik I feel at 168 is not the monster he is at 160. Bute tko 7.

agree completely

pavliks qualitys at middle the made him a world champ was power. He aint gonna get any stronger at 168 and the boys up there will just tear him limb from limb once they get the chance.

Froch, kessler, bute, dirrell, ward, abraham, pascal and possibly diaconu all take pavlik at 168

I agree with that.

Pavlik has shown nothing recently that makes me think he can deal effectively at SMW against a fair bunch of them guys. He should stay at MW and fight Martinez again, if he can improve and show something, then he can move up. Otherwise, I'm really not so sure if he has all that much to offer right now.

[mularvar]

Come on Hulk my man if small Martinez can rough up and outbox imagine what Bute would do, add to that Pavlik I feel at 168 is not the monster he is at 160. Bute tko 7.

agree completely

pavliks qualitys at middle the made him a world champ was power. He aint gonna get any stronger at 168 and the boys up there will just tear him limb from limb once they get the chance.

Froch, kessler, bute, dirrell, ward, abraham, pascal and possibly diaconu all take pavlik at 168

I agree with that.

Pavlik has shown nothing recently that makes me think he can deal effectively at SMW against a fair bunch of them guys. He should stay at MW and fight Martinez again, if he can improve and show something, then he can move up. Otherwise, I'm really not so sure if he has all that much to offer right now.

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