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    Default Re: US students kicked of school campus for wearing US flag t-shirts

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Oggie View Post
    But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.


    This is the problem with people today, way too up tight about past incidents and issues. The thing is, IT'S IN THE PAST AND CAN NEVER BE CHANGED. So, why continue to make a huge deal about it? What are they achieving exactly with this unnecessary resentment (except torturing themselves)?

    Now don't get me wrong, it seems the flag clothing was almost worn in provocation, but the fact is, why is it provocative to people today? What bearing has the past got on what is happening right now? Unless these Mexican students were beaten and anally raped by those same guys as they chanted 'USA! USA! USA!' or something, only then can you understand them getting upset about the situation. But, I'm guessing that never happened and they are just more of these ignorant fools that continue to live in a past that never affected them.

    Hell, on St. Patrick's day this year I saw a group of English guys walking around Dublin, one was wearing an England t-shirt. Did I get offended? Of course not. I thought he was pretty brave because there are fools out there (just like our Mexican friends in this article,) but to take offense to stuff like this? I suggest you look at the bigger problems we have in the world to deal with.
    What are you on about in the past? The Americans and Mexicans generally hate each other like English and Muslims do.

    They are seen as seen coming into the US illegally, not trusted and not popular with large groups of America.

    If there was a national Islam day in inner city schools in London, and a group of students turned up wearing t-shirts with Christian text and biblical quotations on them they would probably get sent home too.

    And not becuase their rights weren't being acknowledged, but because the schools don't want trouble in the playgrounds!

    Freedom of speech and human rights are important issues. Stunts like this just trivialise the whole thing.

    Again, let's be clear, these student's weren't punished or suspended, they were sent home for that afternoon only because they refused to change out of their flag garb.

    They were just trying to be inciteful, there is no other way of looking at it imo. The principle made the only sensible decision he could otherwise he could be accused of not protecting the rights of the Mexican kids at the school who likely felt offended.

    It's people making a big deal out of nothing.
    Never said the school made a wrong decision to send them home, but now that you say it, it depends on if there was trouble starting or not. To just send them home without a proper reason is wrong... if tensions were rising, then the principal made the right decision because his job is to act in the interest of school safety. But, if there were no tensions rising, the principal was basically making a big deal about nothing and almost encouraging the division between the students.

    My reference to the past is more a general reference to countries with long, drawn out, controversial pasts. I know Mexico and America were at war before (though I could be wrong, it's not my specialist area), but I'm not sure how much that means to them today. If they have no disputed past to speak of, then the Mexican students are overreacting even more.

    As I said, I saw an English guy wearing an England t-shirt in Dublin on our national day and, while he got my attention with his bravery, he certainly didn't offend me. Obviously, he got my attention because of Ireland and England's history... but if I saw a Polish guy wearing a Poland t-shirt on St. Patrick's day, I (and a lot of those people that would work themselves into a frenzy about the English guy) wouldn't even think twice about it... and just to be clear, the Polish are to the ignorant Irish people what Mexicans are to ignorant Americans.

    Again, I'm not attacking the schools decision to send them home as I don't know exactly what was going on in there, but I'm more attacking the stupidity in general of taking offense to the insignificant things in life.
    Last edited by Oggie; 05-10-2010 at 05:14 PM.

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