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    Default Re: Pavlik done at 160 (sorry if this is a repost)

    despite what you might have heard, not all fighters need a size advantage over their opponent to win a fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    despite what you might have heard, not all fighters need a size advantage over their opponent to win a fight
    Given Pavlik's style this move will only hurt him. I thought Taylor beat him in the rematch at 166 despite Taylor being pretty much all used up at that point.

    Pavlik was never a great boxer, he's a brawler and he uses his size and strength vs his opponents....this move will hurt

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    Default Re: Pavlik done at 160 (sorry if this is a repost)

    he's not the most technical fighter but i could see him easily beating guys like Green, Bika, and Andrade

    if he can draw them into wars he has a shot against Froch, Abraham, and Kessler, he still has power a good chin and neither one of those guys has too much in the speed department which is where Pavlik starts to get beat, for that same reason Bute, Ward, and Dirrell all take him

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    Default Re: Pavlik done at 160 (sorry if this is a repost)

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    he's not the most technical fighter but i could see him easily beating guys like Green, Bika, and Andrade

    if he can draw them into wars he has a shot against Froch, Abraham, and Kessler, he still has power a good chin and neither one of those guys has too much in the speed department which is where Pavlik starts to get beat, for that same reason Bute, Ward, and Dirrell all take him
    Green - sure
    Andrade - probably
    Bika - I'm not so sure

    I think Pavlik is just going to get murdered at the higher weight classes. Hopkins and Martinez and to a much lesser extent Jermain Taylor have blue printed the way to beat Pavlik.

    I even think Carl Froch could beat Pavlik at this point in time

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    Default Re: Pavlik done at 160 (sorry if this is a repost)

    I am still very interested in what happens at 175. Jack Loew was talking about a possible match-up with Chad Dawson and I don't think that would be a bad fight at all. I would give him a good chance at upsetting Dawson.

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    I think Pavlik's boxing skills are INCREDIBLY underrated, especially since the Bhop humiliation. Pavlik is no slouch, he has a good jab that can really be effective when he choses to use it. I thought he was doing great against the INCREDIBLY slick Martinez after the first 3 rounds up until the cut messed up his vision. He showed an educated jab and a real good sense of timing.

    Kelly Pavlik is not the "1 dimensional brawler" that a lot of you guys think he is, this guy has the skills to compete with the top 168lbers IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I am still very interested in what happens at 175. Jack Loew was talking about a possible match-up with Chad Dawson and I don't think that would be a bad fight at all. I would give him a good chance at upsetting Dawson.
    I really doubt about that, in fact I’d consider an upset if Pavlik would win more than 1 or 2 rounds against Bad Chad.
    It would be just another Dawson – Adamek.

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    Default Re: Pavlik done at 160 (sorry if this is a repost)

    He will be competitve at 168, but he won't contend. He just met too really bad match-up style wise in Hopkins/Martinez. I would pay the PPV fee to see him fight Froch or Bika. Those would be good solid fights.

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    Default Re: Pavlik done at 160 (sorry if this is a repost)

    Quote Originally Posted by iwng100 View Post
    I really doubt about that, in fact I’d consider an upset if Pavlik would win more than 1 or 2 rounds against Bad Chad.
    It would be just another Dawson – Adamek.

    To be honest I wouldn't think it would be that much of an upset if Pavlik beat Chad. Chad is a very good boxer but he is no were near as slick or defensive master as B-Hop,or Martinez.Pavlik has looked like s**t in his last big fight's but Chad does get hit. Adamek knocked him down and Johnson did too. That only leads me to believe that Pavlik could as well. I believe in what Jack Loew said about fighting to fight not to get into shape and train 4 times a day to get the weight down.Remember Adamek couldn't make weight anymore when he fought Dawson. Now look at him. I believe Pavlik could do the same thing.

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