How to stop your elbows from flaring....

[WayneFlint]

The thing is with the shoulders and learning to jab how fran is saying is that when you think about it at the point of impact your shoulder is in a totallyt different position than it would be in with zero or just slight hip rotation aswell so is the head held in a different position sort of as it has to turn away from your torso otherwise you wouldnt be looking where your punching, im currently perfecting my jab to the way fran has discribed its taking a lot of hard work and i think its for these reasons because the placement of things change more than is apparent when your first looking at jabbing this way, some boring repetetive sessions but its definently paying off not just for my jab but for a right hand that might follow it aswell. also if your not jabbing like this its likely you have a very weak double or tripple jab which is always a bad thing.

[God.in.my.corner]

Fran-

I'm orthodox. With my stance, I stand at a good angle and my lead glove is close to chin level. However, my arm itself is not straight and verticle to the ground. The elbow touches the ribs, but the glove drifts right towards my right glove in my guard (at about a 2 o'clock position). My jab is thrown more like a straight left I think. (or used to be).

Wayne-
I am definitly incorporating the shoulder like you said. I do it by moving the right shoulder and hip back to snap it out. The problem is that my right glove moves back to the point where it is not longer in front of my face for protection. I have heard people describe this 'snap' of the back shoulder and hip and a 'Bow and Arrow' effect with the jab like you are an archer of something. Is anybody familiar with this term??