Pavlik done at 160 (sorry if this is a repost)

[Beanflicker]

^I like Pavlik too but if he jumps 2 weight divisions and beats the #1 guy at that weight, then I'd say it would be a pretty big upset.

[Rantcatrat]

More people hate Pavlik than like him on these boards. I'm not one. However, Pavlik is in over his head at 68 or 75. He should try in his next two fights, which he'll undoubtedly lose, to secure his biggest pay days and then retire.

A couple things that have been said have been utter ridiculousness.

Saying Dawson-Adamek at 75 would be similar to Dawson-Pavlik is complete ridiculousness. Dawson would knock Kelly out in under 5 rounds. His power won't translate.

Someone said they thought Taylor beat Pavlik at 65. That is ridiculous. I got love for Taylor too, but come on that fight was Pavlik by at least 3 rounds. As Mobb Deep said Taylor looked shook. Pavlik scared the crap out of Taylor after knocking him senseless in that first fight. You just can't win a fight when you are that scared of your opponent.

Pavlik beat Green? Seriously? Green would knock Kelly out. Even Andrade or Bika would have a great shot at beating Kelly. In fact, I'd favor them although Pavlik would go into the fights as the favorite.

Bute-Pavlik is the best fight for Pavlik because at least he'll be paid on HBO when he loses.

Before the Martinez fight, I thought Kelly just had an off night against Hopkins and the weight was a disadvantage. Now, I'm more of the opinion that Kelly won when he could manhandle his opponents, which he could do against most of the people at 60. He won't have that advantage anymore and thus I think he's on a downward spiral. It's that or his loss is indicative of the fact he is losing the battle against his demons outside the ring. Either way, I'd be suprised to see him win another big fight.

[El Kabong]

I don't hate Kelly Pavlik I'm just not a fan of his. As Rantcatrat said his style doesn't translate well into those division where guys can punch with power AND box look at 168 is there anyone in the top 6 he could even contend with? Abraham? Dirrell? Ward? Kessler? Froch? Bute? and then look at 175 Dawson, Cloud, Johnson, Pascal, Diaconou....I just don't think he matches well for those fights however I would LOVE to see Pavlik-Cloud....that's an all action fight if I've ever seen one!!!