Hopkins:No one can say JT is a superstar.

[Bx730NY]

I just can't believe Hopkins is still crying. That's just another reason for me not to give him respect. He acts like he was winning pretty and convincingly all those years. He didn't even fight in the 2 fight with JT until he saw him tired. He almost got knocked down in both fights from single right hands and he knew he was in with the better man. I don't see how anyone can say he has class and he's such a sore loser. The fight with Winky is another story cause there were so many close rounds that it really could have gone either way although I had it for Wink by a slight margin. Hopkins is trying to say it in a respectful way but if he really wants to be respectful, he would SHUT HIS a** UP!!! I thought he was out of the picture.

Also if you watched the Tarver Hopkins fight B hop walked over to emannuel as soon as the fight was over and said only great things for him to tell Jermaine

How many times did you hear him say that JT was the better and busier man. If he was real, he would have given him credit in public and said "well, I should have fought more and not wait till the last couple of rounds". He got all his fans to hate and hate on JT and they will probably do that for the remainder of Jermain's career. They are going to look for anything negative to say about JT. Do you think that Hopkins would have beaten Winky? WIth what? That right hand? Please! He would have been lucky to land a punch on Winky and that's why he didn't fight him instead of JT. Although I had Winky slightly ahead, I could see where others would see Jermain winning or a draw. Everyone is afraid to say something bad about Hopkins cause they don't want to say something different from what everyone else is saying or the so-called experts are saying, but I speak the truth. You guys are more worried about getting a cool click than saying what you really see. I don't come here to make friends or get cc's or be biased. Just speak the truth.

[mafiajoey]

I just can't believe Hopkins is still crying. That's just another reason for me not to give him respect. He acts like he was winning pretty and convincingly all those years. He didn't even fight in the 2 fight with JT until he saw him tired. He almost got knocked down in both fights from single right hands and he knew he was in with the better man. I don't see how anyone can say he has class and he's such a sore loser. The fight with Winky is another story cause there were so many close rounds that it really could have gone either way although I had it for Wink by a slight margin. Hopkins is trying to say it in a respectful way but if he really wants to be respectful, he would SHUT HIS a** UP!!! I thought he was out of the picture.

Also if you watched the Tarver Hopkins fight B hop walked over to emannuel as soon as the fight was over and said only great things for him to tell Jermaine

How many times did you hear him say that JT was the better and busier man. If he was real, he would have given him credit in public and said "well, I should have fought more and not wait till the last couple of rounds". He got all his fans to hate and hate on JT and they will probably do that for the remainder of Jermain's career. They are going to look for anything negative to say about JT. Do you think that Hopkins would have beaten Winky? WIth what? That right hand? Please! He would have been lucky to land a punch on Winky and that's why he didn't fight him instead of JT. Although I had Winky slightly ahead, I could see where others would see Jermain winning or a draw. Everyone is afraid to say something bad about Hopkins cause they don't want to say something different from what everyone else is saying or the so-called experts are saying, but I speak the truth. You guys are more worried about getting a cool click than saying what you really see. I don't come here to make friends or get cc's or be biased. Just speak the truth.

YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG! FUCK A COOL CLICK, BHOP WAS ROBBED. TALK ABOUT BEING COOL? I GET RIDACULED EVERYDAY FOR SPEAKING MY MIND ON HERE NOT BECAUSE I LIKE B HOP BUT BECUAE JT IS EXTREMELY OVER RATED AND THE CHOSEN GOLDEN BOY. HE DID NOT WIN THE FIRST B HOP FIGHT IF YOU STICK WITH THE SO CALLED "YOU MUST BEAT THE CHAMP" HENCE MAKING THE SECOND FIGHT NOT REALLY CONVINCING EITHER. ALSO THE WINKY FIGHT? ANOTHER SQUEAK BY! HE WILL LOSE, LOSE, AND LOSE SOME MORE. HE CAN'T EVEN BEAT AN OLD MAN AND HE IS WHAT 27? NOW GO KISS JT'S ASS AFTER HIS NEXT FIGHT. MAYBE SIT FRONT ROW SO YOU CAN HAVE HIS SWEAT HIT YOU IN YOUR MOUTH

[Purist]

I think the whole point you're trying to make is.

Just because you have a win over a great fighter doesn't make you a great fighter. You need to stay consistant and build your own legacy instead of trying to live off others. And that you need to earn your legacy and not get it handed to you. Which is probably what everyone's beef is with Jermain Taylor

[fatsandy]

I just can't believe Hopkins is still crying. That's just another reason for me not to give him respect. He acts like he was winning pretty and convincingly all those years. He didn't even fight in the 2 fight with JT until he saw him tired. He almost got knocked down in both fights from single right hands and he knew he was in with the better man. I don't see how anyone can say he has class and he's such a sore loser. The fight with Winky is another story cause there were so many close rounds that it really could have gone either way although I had it for Wink by a slight margin. Hopkins is trying to say it in a respectful way but if he really wants to be respectful, he would SHUT HIS a** UP!!! I thought he was out of the picture.

Also if you watched the Tarver Hopkins fight B hop walked over to emannuel as soon as the fight was over and said only great things for him to tell Jermaine

How many times did you hear him say that JT was the better and busier man. If he was real, he would have given him credit in public and said "well, I should have fought more and not wait till the last couple of rounds". He got all his fans to hate and hate on JT and they will probably do that for the remainder of Jermain's career. They are going to look for anything negative to say about JT. Do you think that Hopkins would have beaten Winky? WIth what? That right hand? Please! He would have been lucky to land a punch on Winky and that's why he didn't fight him instead of JT. Although I had Winky slightly ahead, I could see where others would see Jermain winning or a draw. Everyone is afraid to say something bad about Hopkins cause they don't want to say something different from what everyone else is saying or the so-called experts are saying, but I speak the truth. You guys are more worried about getting a cool click than saying what you really see. I don't come here to make friends or get cc's or be biased. Just speak the truth.

BX730ny you get-a cool-click from me for being straight up....even though I don't know how to give em

[mafiajoey]

I just can't believe Hopkins is still crying. That's just another reason for me not to give him respect. He acts like he was winning pretty and convincingly all those years. He didn't even fight in the 2 fight with JT until he saw him tired. He almost got knocked down in both fights from single right hands and he knew he was in with the better man. I don't see how anyone can say he has class and he's such a sore loser. The fight with Winky is another story cause there were so many close rounds that it really could have gone either way although I had it for Wink by a slight margin. Hopkins is trying to say it in a respectful way but if he really wants to be respectful, he would SHUT HIS a** UP!!! I thought he was out of the picture.

Also if you watched the Tarver Hopkins fight B hop walked over to emannuel as soon as the fight was over and said only great things for him to tell Jermaine

How many times did you hear him say that JT was the better and busier man. If he was real, he would have given him credit in public and said "well, I should have fought more and not wait till the last couple of rounds". He got all his fans to hate and hate on JT and they will probably do that for the remainder of Jermain's career. They are going to look for anything negative to say about JT. Do you think that Hopkins would have beaten Winky? WIth what? That right hand? Please! He would have been lucky to land a punch on Winky and that's why he didn't fight him instead of JT. Although I had Winky slightly ahead, I could see where others would see Jermain winning or a draw. Everyone is afraid to say something bad about Hopkins cause they don't want to say something different from what everyone else is saying or the so-called experts are saying, but I speak the truth. You guys are more worried about getting a cool click than saying what you really see. I don't come here to make friends or get cc's or be biased. Just speak the truth.

BX730ny you get-a cool-click from me for being straight up....even though I don't know how to give em

HEY FATSANDY THERE IS NOTHING COOL ABOUT THAE ABOVE JT LOVERS COMMENTS. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU CAN'T GIVE A COOL CLICK!

[Wacko3205]

The bottom line with Taylor is this...the kid is good...he aint great...but he's pretty damned good.

You would have to be to even hang with Hopkins & Wright...but he did not beat Wright & he did not beat Hopkins...he just got the win & the draw.

Now...while that may be enough for most Taylor fans...it's not enough for this one.

I'm a fan of the kid...but he just has to many faults that he is not fixing. He's relying on his power to pull him through & that will be his down fall in the end.

Taylor, IWO, will never live up to the hype...not because he's not a good enough fighter & not because he won't grow...but because HBO built the ladder to the thrown a bit too high & he's got a lot of climbing to do before he can sit in the king's seat & rule the ranks.

Personally...in the end...I think that it's just that simple.

[Wacko3205]

Then again...I have been known to be wrong on several occassions.

[mafiajoey]

The bottom line with Taylor is this...the kid is good...he aint great...but he's pretty damned good.

You would have to be to even hang with Hopkins & Wright...but he did not beat Wright & he did not beat Hopkins...he just got the win & the draw.

Now...while that may be enough for most Taylor fans...it's not enough for this one.

I'm a fan of the kid...but he just has to many faults that he is not fixing. He's relying on his power to pull him through & that will be his down fall in the end.

Taylor, IWO, will never live up to the hype...not because he's not a good enough fighter & not because he won't grow...but because HBO built the ladder to the thrown a bit too high & he's got a lot of climbing to do before he can sit in the king's seat & rule the ranks.

Personally...in the end...I think that it's just that simple.

yOU COULDN'T HAVE PUT IT ANY BETTER!!!!! cHEERS TO THE TRUTH. THE PROBLEM IS THE JT FANS CAN'T ACCEPT THESE FACTS YOU STATED SIR!

[LIQUID6]

Hopkins added: "But right now I don't think anybody, even in Arkansas (Taylor's home state), can say Jermain is a superstar based on his last three fights. There are people who will swear he lost all three of those fights. "

yep......im one of em

[Bx730NY]

The bottom line with Taylor is this...the kid is good...he aint great...but he's pretty damned good.

You would have to be to even hang with Hopkins & Wright...but he did not beat Wright & he did not beat Hopkins...he just got the win & the draw.

Now...while that may be enough for most Taylor fans...it's not enough for this one.

I'm a fan of the kid...but he just has to many faults that he is not fixing. He's relying on his power to pull him through & that will be his down fall in the end.

Taylor, IWO, will never live up to the hype...not because he's not a good enough fighter & not because he won't grow...but because HBO built the ladder to the thrown a bit too high & he's got a lot of climbing to do before he can sit in the king's seat & rule the ranks.

Personally...in the end...I think that it's just that simple.

He definitely has alot to work on as far as his fight game goes, like keeping his hands in a better defensive position for one. What separates him from others is that, while he could have sat on those Hopkins victories for awhile, he fought the best available guy. I think Winky won but he was no pushover. I hope he gets better cause with his great attitude and heart, we will get to see a whole lot of meaningful fights.

[Wacko3205]

The bottom line with Taylor is this...the kid is good...he aint great...but he's pretty damned good.

You would have to be to even hang with Hopkins & Wright...but he did not beat Wright & he did not beat Hopkins...he just got the win & the draw.

Now...while that may be enough for most Taylor fans...it's not enough for this one.

I'm a fan of the kid...but he just has to many faults that he is not fixing. He's relying on his power to pull him through & that will be his down fall in the end.

Taylor, IWO, will never live up to the hype...not because he's not a good enough fighter & not because he won't grow...but because HBO built the ladder to the thrown a bit too high & he's got a lot of climbing to do before he can sit in the king's seat & rule the ranks.

Personally...in the end...I think that it's just that simple.

He definitely has alot to work on as far as his fight game goes, like keeping his hands in a better defensive position for one. What separates him from others is that, while he could have sat on those Hopkins victories for awhile, he fought the best available guy. I think Winky won but he was no pushover. I hope he gets better cause with his great attitude and heart, we will get to see a whole lot of meaningful fights.

Agreed.

It should be made clear that I do indeed like Taylor & would support the kid until the cows came home (deep south expression) but he's got to win against a legit fighter & he's got to do it convincingly if he's the end all be all champion that he's being made out to be by HOBO & his blood thirsty fans.

[Big_Deuce]

bhop makes a good point when he says, boxing politics are on JT's side...if it was 2 no names in that fight, winkey would of took the decision....
JT has to step it up, and beat someone with some status, handsdown

[bcollins]

JT makes for interesting discussion, no doubt. You've got a guy who's been in three fights with two of the top fighters in his division, both of whom are far more experienced. I honestly think all three of those fights could be called either way...it's more a matter of taste as to how you decide who won those fights. But the bottom line is that the kid stayed in there with the big dogs, and for that, I give him a lot of credit.

That being said, he's nowhere near a dominant champion. Taylor really needs a clear win against a solid opponent to make a case for his title. Right now, he has the belts, but little of the respect that should go with them...simply because of the closeness of his last three bouts. You gotta beat somebody's ass to get that respect, and while he may have won these fights, he didn't win them convincingly.