DLH Vs. Hatton (and no i don't mean it's happening)

[JonnyFolds]

especially at that stage, when Oscar was more of a mover, meaning he was always on the front of his toes and used that excellent sharp jab, IMO he'd just cut Hatton up with the jab and overwhelm him with flurries

His left hook would devastate Hatton as he rushed in. It would be a good scrap while it lasted, but ODH is simply a better fighter and he would win by mid-round TKO.

care to name me a single fighter on ODLHs record that he can brag about ever KO`ing?

Hatton only ever got beat by the best 2 p4ps of his generation, he sure as hell aint going down to an old de la hoya

If you ask me it would be hatton-castillo all over again only ODLH wouldnt be so stupid as to try and trade with the best body puncher in the biz and would end up going through the motions and taking a points loss

KO-ed Fernando Vargas in his prime.

[Gandalf]

especially at that stage, when Oscar was more of a mover, meaning he was always on the front of his toes and used that excellent sharp jab, IMO he'd just cut Hatton up with the jab and overwhelm him with flurries

His left hook would devastate Hatton as he rushed in. It would be a good scrap while it lasted, but ODH is simply a better fighter and he would win by mid-round TKO.

care to name me a single fighter on ODLHs record that he can brag about ever KO`ing?

Hatton only ever got beat by the best 2 p4ps of his generation, he sure as hell aint going down to an old de la hoya

If you ask me it would be hatton-castillo all over again only ODLH wouldnt be so stupid as to try and trade with the best body puncher in the biz and would end up going through the motions and taking a points loss

KO-ed Fernando Vargas in his prime.

So what?

[Gandalf]

Vargas was shit anyway, Hatton would have mauled him and eaten various parts.

[p4pking]

Vargas was shit anyway, Hatton would have mauled him and eaten various parts.

Oh please. Vargas was still a damn good fighter at that point. Hatton would've gotten mauled by MANY fighters Oscar fought above 140, let alone Vargas at light middle. I'll assume you weren't serious though.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Vargas was shit anyway, Hatton would have mauled him and eaten various parts.

Hatton was nearly KO'd by Collazo, who isn't even considered a hard hitting Welterweight much less a hard hitting Jr. Middleweight, you have made it very clear that Mayweather couldn't KO Marquez, yet he smashed Hatton, Vargas would have beat Hatton from pillar to post without the steroids, he would have ended Hatton with them

[Pugilistic]

De La Hoya by KO.

[ono]

De La Hoya by complete embarrassment. I loved Hatton, but he loses to nearly every quick handed elite fighter who can throw more than one punch at a time.

He has never been able to deal with it. The fact he nearly got ko'd by Collazo had fuck all to do with him fighting at welterweight and neither did Mayweather. He just doesn't know how to react to combinations, and he's never been able to deal with speed. Collazo threw fast combinations and nearly took Hatton's head off. Same with Pacquiao and once Mayweather opened up, he did the same thing.

It's ok saying he only lost to the two greatest fighters of a generation, but the facts are he never convincingly beat anybody who was in their prime who was technically good with fast hands. Oscar would stop him after about 6 or 7 imo.

[p4pking]

De La Hoya by complete embarrassment. I loved Hatton, but he loses to nearly every quick handed elite fighter who can throw more than one punch at a time.

He has never been able to deal with it. The fact he nearly got ko'd by Collazo had fuck all to do with him fighting at welterweight and neither did Mayweather. He just doesn't know how to react to combinations, and he's never been able to deal with speed. Collazo threw fast combinations and nearly took Hatton's head off. Same with Pacquiao and once Mayweather opened up, he did the same thing.

It's ok saying he only lost to the two greatest fighters of a generation, but the facts are he never convincingly beat anybody who was in their prime who was technically good with fast hands. Oscar would stop him after about 6 or 7 imo.

Good post. You've got to love people defending Hatton's chances on the basis that "he only lost to the two best p4p fighters", without recognizing that he was KNOCKED OUT by both, and never beat anyone close to the same level, being rocked by several far inferior guys. At the same time people will excuse his poor performance against Collazo due to being at WW, although Collazo isn't a puncher nor did he impose his size in the fight. Talk about having it both ways.

[Andrew73]

De La Hoya yesterday, today and tomorrow.

[Gandalf]

Vargas was shit anyway, Hatton would have mauled him and eaten various parts.

Hatton was nearly KO'd by Collazo, who isn't even considered a hard hitting Welterweight much less a hard hitting Jr. Middleweight, you have made it very clear that Mayweather couldn't KO Marquez, yet he smashed Hatton, Vargas would have beat Hatton from pillar to post without the steroids, he would have ended Hatton with them

Maybe my views became a bit eccentric following post dinner alcohol consumption, but I refuse to consider Vargas anything more than the Victor Ortiz of his time. At the end of the day Hatton was a JWW who was a tough SOAB for a short while before he drank and ate his way out of purpose and condition. Whilst in that prime state he would have been a very tough call for Oscar win or lose. Vargas was a porky plodder and a steroid user, so we shouldn't even really be talking about him. He has barred himself from the discussion as far as I am concerned. I've never been keen on Vargas with his stupid haircuts.

[Gandalf]

De La Hoya yesterday, today and tomorrow.

What about the day before yesterday because Hatton wasn't bad then, you know. Hatton deserves his knocks for how he has handled his career and I can see clearly why his estimation has gone down in the eyes of many, but stick the Hatton that faced Tszyu in there with a still green Oscar at 140 and you have a hell of a fight.

[Galaxy]

Is there even a need for a poll? DLH even on his worst day!!!

[amat]

Miles if Vargas was the Victor Ortiz of his time then Victor Ortiz wouldn't have lost to Marcos Maidana but Pacquiao instead. Vargas had only been beaten by Trinidad and that was a fiercely fought fight that he could have won. Vargas was a very feared fighter who was a zillion times more proven then Ortiz. Don't become a victim of revisionist history. Plenty of people picked Vargas in that fight, De La Hoya had the two losses to Trinidad and Mosley and after the Mosley loss had some inactivity and had only faced the lightly regarded pair of Gatti and Castillejo since. This was a big fight and there were just as many questions lingering around De La Hoya as there was Vargas. Lampley wouldn't cry when De La Hoya KO'd Victor Ortiz.

[Master]

Why are we comparing Vargas, Hatton never fought at light middle. Hatton was a top fighter at 140lb and Oscar really peaked at 147lb. So Hatton would win as he was more seasoned fighter.

[ono]

De La Hoya by complete embarrassment. I loved Hatton, but he loses to nearly every quick handed elite fighter who can throw more than one punch at a time.

He has never been able to deal with it. The fact he nearly got ko'd by Collazo had fuck all to do with him fighting at welterweight and neither did Mayweather. He just doesn't know how to react to combinations, and he's never been able to deal with speed. Collazo threw fast combinations and nearly took Hatton's head off. Same with Pacquiao and once Mayweather opened up, he did the same thing.

It's ok saying he only lost to the two greatest fighters of a generation, but the facts are he never convincingly beat anybody who was in their prime who was technically good with fast hands. Oscar would stop him after about 6 or 7 imo.

Good post. You've got to love people defending Hatton's chances on the basis that "he only lost to the two best p4p fighters", without recognizing that he was KNOCKED OUT by both, and never beat anyone close to the same level, being rocked by several far inferior guys. At the same time people will excuse his poor performance against Collazo due to being at WW, although Collazo isn't a puncher nor did he impose his size in the fight. Talk about having it both ways.

Yeah exactly. Don't get me wrong i loved Hatton and he was the reason i joined the forum 5 years ago, but he had his limitations. People go on about Khan being protected, but Warren did an absolute dynamite job of keeping Hatton away from anyone who had the style to trouble him. As soon as Hatton left Warren, he went in with 3 guys who could put punches together, and he looked pretty bad in all 3. Granted 2 were Pacquiao and Mayweather, but like you said he was badly knocked out in both. Against Collazo he was a whisker away from being knocked out. It's not so much the power of a single shot (although that did it for Pac), it's the fact that he can't react to more than one punch at a time. Lazcano even troubled him, because he threw combinations. He can't react to that style and somebody as good as Oscar would murder him.