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    Tyson attacked most of the time but had a good defence.
    Tyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.

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    I always think of high-volume pressure fighters when I hear the term offense as defense, but I think Lyle makes a good point about guys like Foreman who just terrified people into inaction.

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    I always think of high-volume pressure fighters when I hear the term offense as defense, but I think Lyle makes a good point about guys like Foreman who just terrified people into inaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I always think of high-volume pressure fighters when I hear the term offense as defense, but I think Lyle makes a good point about guys like Foreman who just terrified people into inaction.
    .....aaaahhh, it never gets old

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
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    Tyson attacked most of the time but had a good defence.
    Tyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.
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    On subject its true, when I boxed you can slow your opponent down by throwing some good hard shots and it allows you more time to think while they are hesitating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
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    Tyson attacked most of the time but had a good defence.
    Tyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.
    And his drugs Cheating twat!

    On subject its true, when I boxed you can slow your opponent down by throwing some good hard shots and it allows you more time to think while they are hesitating.
    Yeah if you interrupt their movement they think,if they think they slow up.
    I suppose technically speaking, a straight thrown over the outside of an in coming jab,deflecting it and landing is probably the fastest offence as defense.
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    Nigel Benn was all out vicious attack particularly in the early days.
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    I've been trying to figure out who to pick in the Cotto-Foreman fight for the Prediction Contest, so I've been doing some reading about the fight (yes, I am that much of a loser) and I came across an article that said Miguel Cotto's offense was his defense and I figured I'd see if you guys agreed with that. I'm not sure I do, Cotto's not the type of relentless pressure fighter or huge puncher that I associate with the offense as defense crowd. I think Cotto's simply a very good offensive fighter with somewhat mediocre defense, if that makes sense - I'm not sure if it does.

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    if we are talking about using offense as a method of defence then you cant look past calzaghe

    Threw a shit load of non power punches but still managed to put his opponent on the back foot
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    Quote Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer View Post
    if we are talking about using offense as a method of defence then you cant look past calzaghe

    Threw a shit load of non power punches but still managed to put his opponent on the back foot
    I could be totally off-base here, but when I've watched Calzaghe fight he's always struck as the type of fighter who had the skills and reflexes to be effective defensively even when not throwing a million punches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tyson attacked most of the time but had a good defence.
    Tyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.
    I'm truly amazed you managed to get Wlad into a thread about offensive fighters!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
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    Tyson attacked most of the time but had a good defence.
    Tyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.
    I'm truly amazed you managed to get Wlad into a thread about offensive fighters!
    Lyle always drops in a klit now and then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    I'm truly amazed you managed to get Wlad into a thread about offensive fighters!
    Well given the title of the thread I figured he fit the mold....his offense and the threat of his punching power keeps the guys he fights from attacking him. What's wrong with mentioning that? The constant use of his jab has really limited Wlad's need for defense (eventhough his defense has improved)

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