'Sitting down' on your punches

[HerbM]

I check the forum regularly for new posts and had hoped that somebody much more learned than I would contribute further to this thread. I hope I don't take this off topic.

So, in an attempt to get the momentum going again.

I experience little breakthroughs with technique and skill building. Due to being a novice with much to learn and because I experiment and analyse a lot, this occurs frequently.
I recently have only just grasped the fundamental contribution to my punching power and speed that pushing off the floor gives me. I relate this to the physical feeling I get when skipping rope. It all begins with the floor. I've read that many times and didn't really grasp it fully. Strangely, I learnt that by getting in to my stance in front of a wall and feeling the difference in weight and force I could push into the wall with the open palms of my hand. Moving onto shadowboxing I found my hands were propelled much faster.

At the moment I relate to "sitting down" on my punches as the moment when gravity acts on my weight at the same time the punch lands. I think of it as a result of the feet pushing.

Still getting there obviously. Somebody help please.

Gosh, I just reread what Herb wrote and feel he said it much more elequently and comprehensively.

I understand the desire to get some useful conversation going on a topic of interest -- I get that feeling quite often myself -- but you seem to be making good progress and have a handle on it so there might not be much to add.

Thanks for the compliment as well -- not sure what I wrote was very "eloquent" but I did try for some level of completeness and worked for clarity (whether it shows or not.)

You might want to try the wall exercise with each of the types of force generators and dissipators that I listed and get a feel for where you get the most pressure and how it affects your balance etc.

For instance, I think you will be (a bit) surprised to see how standing in a normal boxing stance and pressing with the forward hand (like a jab) that when you drop at the knees just a little it will turn your body and press the hand into the wall....

Maybe it won't help much, but it will only take a few minutes to run through the list.

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HerbM

[Dadi Astthorsson]

Posterior chain. From the bottom of the feet to the crown of the head and vice versa.

[jahmez]

Never really understood what people mean by sitting down on your punches. I just picture Cotto hitting the mits.

[jameso'hara]

Upweighting?

[cambay411]

When i throw for power it helps me if i dip the knee of whatever hand i throw with. For example if i throw a straight right (in an orthadox stance) i dip my rear knee, at the same exact time im pushing with my legs as well. I guess it sounds kind of wierd. Its almost two motions at once but for me its smooth and i get alot of power. If anyone can explain this better help me out. For me the sitting down on your punches would be the dipping of the knees.

[cambay411]

To be more general i would say that someone that does not sit down on there punches is throwing arm punches. On the other hand, someone who does sit down on their punches is using there legs, hips and core body in the proper ways to get the most power from their punches.

[HerbM]

To be more general i would say that someone that does not sit down on there punches is throwing arm punches. On the other hand, someone who does sit down on their punches is using there legs, hips and core body in the proper ways to get the most power from their punches.

Back to the original question here:

Since you used the phrase as a necessary component of generating maximum power, what definition are you using for this phrase "sitting down [their] punches"?

Cambay, you might have a better understanding and definition of the phrase to get us all thinking about the same thing....


Also a minor point: Couldn't one being turning without lowering, and therefore using hips, core, or shoulders?

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HerbM

[HerbM]

When i throw for power it helps me if i dip the knee of whatever hand i throw with. For example if i throw a straight right (in an orthadox stance) i dip my rear knee, at the same exact time im pushing with my legs as well. I guess it sounds kind of wierd. Its almost two motions at once but for me its smooth and i get alot of power. If anyone can explain this better help me out. For me the sitting down on your punches would be the dipping of the knees.

Seems to work for the front hand, but would you really do this for a rear (power) hand strike, i.e., dip the rear knee?

Are you unweighting the rear leg here, or perhaps fully unweighting the front leg and sinking into the back one (that makes sense but then both 'knees' would be flexing [slightly])?

If so, please try to explain and elaborate, or maybe their is another source for this you can point out...?

[cambay411]

When i throw for power it helps me if i dip the knee of whatever hand i throw with. For example if i throw a straight right (in an orthadox stance) i dip my rear knee, at the same exact time im pushing with my legs as well. I guess it sounds kind of wierd. Its almost two motions at once but for me its smooth and i get alot of power. If anyone can explain this better help me out. For me the sitting down on your punches would be the dipping of the knees.

Seems to work for the front hand, but would you really do this for a rear (power) hand strike, i.e., dip the rear knee?

Are you unweighting the rear leg here, or perhaps fully unweighting the front leg and sinking into the back one (that makes sense but then both 'knees' would be flexing [slightly])?

If so, please try to explain and elaborate, or maybe their is another source for this you can point out...?

Good question herb, thinking more into this i would say the dip in the knee for a straight right (orthadox) helps me transfer most of my wieght to my front foot while at the exact same time push with the balls of my foot on my rear foot. I also use the shift in energy to transfer power from side to side with my hips which also flows up threw my core and shoulders and finally my fist (hope that makes since lol). A better description of the motion i think is when throwing a right uppercut. Transfer wieght to front leg, dip the knee, twist the body and land the punch in one motion.