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    Quote Originally Posted by oakleyno1 View Post
    first off i dont think vargas gets the credit he deserves

    he was the last man to beat winky wright for almost 10 years (9 or 10 if you think he beat hopkins)

    anyway watching the fight with trinidad did anyone think after the 5th round he was going to win it? I did if you watch the 5th round its about as good as boxing gets, its a shame he couldnt keep it goig in the championship rounds

    just wondering if anyone else thought he was going to win it?

    I think there was a handwrap controversy on that fight. Vargas said that a former cornerman for Tito told him to beware of Tito's handwraps. Vargas said that it was like he was hit with a baseball bat everytime Tito punches. After that fight, Vargas was never the same. He looked like a man who is not able to take a punch anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oakleyno1 View Post
    first off i dont think vargas gets the credit he deserves

    he was the last man to beat winky wright for almost 10 years (9 or 10 if you think he beat hopkins)

    anyway watching the fight with trinidad did anyone think after the 5th round he was going to win it? I did if you watch the 5th round its about as good as boxing gets, its a shame he couldnt keep it goig in the championship rounds

    just wondering if anyone else thought he was going to win it?

    I think there was a handwrap controversy on that fight. Vargas said that a former cornerman for Tito told him to beware of Tito's handwraps. Vargas said that it was like he was hit with a baseball bat everytime Tito punches. After that fight, Vargas was never the same. He looked like a man who is not able to take a punch anymore...
    the controversy of Trinidad's wraps came from the Hopkins fight, and Richardson himself said that it wasn't that he had loaded gloves or anything, just that the method used to wrap Trinidad's hands wasn't allowed in NY, it was completely legal in Vegas, the only thing that Trinidad Sr. does different is that instead of putting more support on the wrist with the gauze, he applies more on the knuckles, which is still legal in Nevada

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jolz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oakleyno1 View Post
    first off i dont think vargas gets the credit he deserves

    he was the last man to beat winky wright for almost 10 years (9 or 10 if you think he beat hopkins)

    anyway watching the fight with trinidad did anyone think after the 5th round he was going to win it? I did if you watch the 5th round its about as good as boxing gets, its a shame he couldnt keep it goig in the championship rounds

    just wondering if anyone else thought he was going to win it?

    I think there was a handwrap controversy on that fight. Vargas said that a former cornerman for Tito told him to beware of Tito's handwraps. Vargas said that it was like he was hit with a baseball bat everytime Tito punches. After that fight, Vargas was never the same. He looked like a man who is not able to take a punch anymore...
    the controversy of Trinidad's wraps came from the Hopkins fight, and Richardson himself said that it wasn't that he had loaded gloves or anything, just that the method used to wrap Trinidad's hands wasn't allowed in NY, it was completely legal in Vegas, the only thing that Trinidad Sr. does different is that instead of putting more support on the wrist with the gauze, he applies more on the knuckles, which is still legal in Nevada

    I have read that article on HBO.com. I will try to find and give you the link...

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    Vargas was one of the most mature fighters for his age that I've seen. Taking on Tito when he was how old? Wasn't he like 20? No older than 22...he get's dropped HARD the first few rounds and even after he is hurt (when most young fighters would have folded after experiencing that for the first time) , he still made adjustments and got himself back into the fight.

    Yeah, certainly it looked like the momentum was his in the 4th going into the 5th..those low blows definitely played a part and I don't think Vargas didn the whole "oscars" performance..he could have taken 5 minutes from those hard low blows but went pretty much straight back in.

    Unbelievable Fighter - He definitely doesn't get the credit he deserves. He is one of my favourite Mexican fighters of all time. He had that swagger and ability to piss everyone off - Everyone thought he'd be a pussy because of his boy'ish looks but it turned out he still had that Mexican heart AND could box clever on top of that!

    Very under-rated but didn't do himself no favours by hitting the buffet regularly towards the end of his career. Lack of discipline and that Oscar De La Hoya beating ruined him..I thought that he was still pretty live until that fight.

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