Ring's NEW Top 10 P4P... Look where Hopkins is at!!!

[magnum]

It's a disgrace to even have Hopkins in the top 10, I would never of had that guy near my top 10. 160 has been the worst division in boxing by miles for 10 years now.

eah its a lot worse than super middle and cruiserweight. not to mention a lot of other divisions. try not to be so biased.

Biased?? I'm stating the Truth.

hey.. I will be the first to tell you out of the 21 attempted defenses Hopkins hasnt had but 6 or 7 real challengers.

6 ot 7 real challengers?? Where did you get that from? The guy has had NO real challengers.

Manny Steward quote: "The last world-class, natural Middleweight that Hopkins fought was Roy Jones, and he lost every round."

who was the best fighter benn, eubank and collins ever faced besides if they fought themselves?

Gerald McClellan, who was waaaaaaay better than Hopkins.

dont avoid the question. that all of thim faced.

mcclellan was very good and I really like the guy. But he lost to Benn for a reason. He loaded up on everything and couldnt pace himself. He would have had trouble hitting Hopkins. he never did reach his prime and he would have been great, but the version that benn beat wasnt great. not to mention the controversy in that fight.

[Purist]

Yeah, I mean William Joppy, Glen Johnson, and Antwun Echols were all garbage! :

NOWHERE NEAR good enough opposition to be considered ANYWHERE NEAR Sugar Ray Robinson.

Neither were ur opponents or Eubanks either.

And ur only sayin McClennan was better than Hopkins cause you beat him, Nigel. Â :

If anythin, McClennan wasn't more skillfull, but he hit harder. Â

But u found dat out first hand didn't u Â

J/P all respect all respect for you not getting Ko'd in the first round Nige.

[magnum]

It's a disgrace to even have Hopkins in the top 10, I would never of had that guy near my top 10. 160 has been the worst division in boxing by miles for 10 years now.

eah its a lot worse than super middle and cruiserweight. not to mention a lot of other divisions. try not to be so biased.

Biased?? I'm stating the Truth.

hey.. I will be the first to tell you out of the 21 attempted defenses Hopkins hasnt had but 6 or 7 real challengers.

6 ot 7 real challengers?? Where did you get that from? The guy has had NO real challengers.

Manny Steward quote: "The last world-class, natural Middleweight that Hopkins fought was Roy Jones, and he lost every round."

who was the best fighter benn, eubank and collins ever faced besides if they fought themselves?

And why are you bringing this up? We're talking about HOPKINS you dumb ass.

dont resort to name calling because you arguement sucks.

i am bringing this up because all of this is just a way to bash him for not fighting the guys. also you believe that they would have beat them and they dont get anywhere near the credit he does. THAT IS WHY I AM BRINGING THIS UP.

[BritishLion]

It's a disgrace to even have Hopkins in the top 10, I would never of had that guy near my top 10. 160 has been the worst division in boxing by miles for 10 years now.

eah its a lot worse than super middle and cruiserweight. not to mention a lot of other divisions. try not to be so biased.

Biased?? I'm stating the Truth.

hey.. I will be the first to tell you out of the 21 attempted defenses Hopkins hasnt had but 6 or 7 real challengers.

6 ot 7 real challengers?? Where did you get that from? The guy has had NO real challengers.

Manny Steward quote: "The last world-class, natural Middleweight that Hopkins fought was Roy Jones, and he lost every round."

who was the best fighter benn, eubank and collins ever faced besides if they fought themselves?

Gerald McClellan, who was waaaaaaay better than Hopkins.

dont avoid the question. that all of thim faced.

mcclellan was very good and I really like the guy. But he lost to Benn for a reason. He loaded up on everything and couldnt pace himself. He would have had trouble hitting Hopkins. he never did reach his prime and he would have been great, but the version that benn beat wasnt great. not to mention the controversy in that fight.

And I suppose Benn wasn't great :

[BritishLion]

Yeah, I mean William Joppy, Glen Johnson, and Antwun Echols were all garbage! :

NOWHERE NEAR good enough opposition to be considered ANYWHERE NEAR Sugar Ray Robinson.

Neither were ur opponents or Eubanks either.

We're talking about HOPKINS, hello??

[magnum]

It's a disgrace to even have Hopkins in the top 10, I would never of had that guy near my top 10. 160 has been the worst division in boxing by miles for 10 years now.

eah its a lot worse than super middle and cruiserweight. not to mention a lot of other divisions. try not to be so biased.

Biased?? I'm stating the Truth.

hey.. I will be the first to tell you out of the 21 attempted defenses Hopkins hasnt had but 6 or 7 real challengers.

6 ot 7 real challengers?? Where did you get that from? The guy has had NO real challengers.

Manny Steward quote: "The last world-class, natural Middleweight that Hopkins fought was Roy Jones, and he lost every round."

who was the best fighter benn, eubank and collins ever faced besides if they fought themselves?

Gerald McClellan, who was waaaaaaay better than Hopkins.

dont avoid the question. that all of thim faced.

mcclellan was very good and I really like the guy. But he lost to Benn for a reason. He loaded up on everything and couldnt pace himself. He would have had trouble hitting Hopkins. he never did reach his prime and he would have been great, but the version that benn beat wasnt great. not to mention the controversy in that fight.

And I suppose Benn wasn't great :

hey I never said he wasnt a good fighter. you arent reading what i am typing. I said who were the best opponents of the three fighters since you are bashing bernard.

[Hulk]

DD, Purist thinks you are Nigel Benn.
I think you are out of your mind. Hopkins is a great Middleweight. No one has ever said he was better than SRR or Hagler so chill out!

[Purist]

Yeah, I mean William Joppy, Glen Johnson, and Antwun Echols were all garbage! :

NOWHERE NEAR good enough opposition to be considered ANYWHERE NEAR Sugar Ray Robinson.

Neither were ur opponents or Eubanks either.

We're talking about HOPKINS, hello??

I know Nigel. Â Jus dun double standard a lil.

In your opinion, do you think you, in your "Dark Destroyer" Days, before you fought McClennan, do you think you'dve beat Hopkins?

[Purist]

DD, Purist thinks you are Nigel Benn.
I think you are out of your mind. Hopkins is a great Middleweight. No one has ever said he was better than SRR or Hagler so chill out!

I wasn't mocking him Hulk, he IS Nigel Benn.

[Hulk]

DD, Purist thinks you are Nigel Benn.
I think you are out of your mind. Hopkins is a great Middleweight. No one has ever said he was better than SRR or Hagler so chill out!

I wasn't mocking him Hulk, he IS Nigel Benn.

Sure he is... : In PMs he has claimed to have done well against Howard Eastman in a sparring session. That was his big achievement his claim to fame. And IF it is true I applaud him for that. He also told me he was expected to do well in the pro ranks but was sent to prison instead. He never said any thing about being World Champ Nigel Benn. So I highly doubt he is. Not to mention if he was, wouldn't he be praising Benn more and NOT EUBANK?!

[Purist]

Go here if u doubt me Hulk

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...ic,5490.0.html

This was back when DD was known as Lion. But it still says DD. Read it.

[drgoodlooking]

POUND-FOR-POUND
1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Junior Welterweight
2. WINKY WRIGHT
Junior Middleweight
3. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
Junior Lightweight
4. ERIK MORALES
Junior Lightweight
5. MANNY PACQUIAO
Featherweight
6. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Featherweight
7. RICKY HATTON
Junior Welterweight
8. DIEGO CORRALES
Lightweight
9. JERMAIN TAYLOR
Middleweight
10. BERNARD HOPKINS
Middleweight


Hopkins at number 10! Hahaha, never thought I'd live to see the day! And Mayweather finally at number 1!!! Boxing just keeps getting more surprising. I don't think Mayweather, a fighter who hasn't fought a super-fight, oustide of Arturo Gatti, deserves such a crown.

As for Hopkins at number 10...Â
When you fall, you fall hard! I didn't think Hopkins' would be disrespected that easily after a loss. ...But you know what? Keep disrespecting and you'll get Disrespected Back!

With all due respect to the "champion," Hopkins, he did beat the hell outta Jermain, physically and most of all... mentally. Jermain isn't the man to dethrone Hopkins, it's a man with talent who is willing to maul Hopkins and willing to take punishment to do it.  Either that or a super fast boxer-counterpuncher. Basically a Mexican or a Mayweather, both would have to be bigger of course.

After the Jermain fight, I thought Sugar Ray Leonard has a chance against Hopkins, but Hagler has a better chance at Hopkins. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Put in your two cents on the NEW Ring's ratings.

Floyd is probably the best P4P. Hopkins should not be so low though, especially with one debateable "split decision" loss. Diego should maybe be a little higher around the fifth spot and why didn't they just put Taylor as #1 or #2 now because they are always screwing the P4P list up!! Everytime a fighter wins even just one big fight, they want to put him up there overnight. How is Barerra still so high?

[Mark TKO]

its the old problem - Taylor beat Hopkins and so has to be ranked above him but he can't be ranked too highly just yet

So if you put him in at 9 you have to put Hopkins 10th - is a bit of a drastic drop isn't it for a guy who lost a razor thin decision. But what do you do - put Taylor at 3 and make Hopkins 4 ? No

And if they left Hopkins still above taylor then that would just take the piss.

Where did you see that list anyway ? I don't expect to read about Hopkins v Taylor or see a p4p list, based on its outcome, in The Ring for another couple of months ?

have they got a a website ?

[smashup]

WTF..........Ricky hatton..........f*** off. The guy beat one man and hes number 7, thats f***ing disgraceful. Hopkins should be number 2.

Yeah, Hatton should never be under Juan Manuel Marquez.

At least marquez has earned his way into the top 10, hatton beat kostya tszyu (to me it looked like an off night) and now hes number 7. Jesus christ, these ratings are screwed up.

Marquez earned it by one fight too. Except Hatton's undefeated and Marquez isn't. Not only that, I aslo think Pacquiao beat Marquez on points.

Hatton beat a great fighter, Kostya Tszyu, and fought every second in every round. He wasn't afraid of the incoming onslaught from the p4p power puncher. With that showing, Hatton came closer to greatness than Jermain ever was.

Agree
I think these ratings are'nt so much based on "Stats" but on entertainment value..
Bums on seats so to speak

[ClydeB]

Yeah, I mean William Joppy, Glen Johnson, and Antwun Echols were all garbage! :

NOWHERE NEAR good enough opposition to be considered ANYWHERE NEAR Sugar Ray Robinson.

Neither were ur opponents or Eubanks either.

And ur only sayin McClennan was better than Hopkins cause you beat him, Nigel. Â :

If anythin, McClennan wasn't more skillfull, but he hit harder. Â

But u found dat out first hand didn't u Â

J/P all respect all respect for you not getting Ko'd in the first round Nige.

You don't genuinely believe that DD is Nigel Benn, do you?