So....is war in the Middle East imminent?

[Nameless]

It's quite a worrying situation indeed, not sure how far it',ll go but a lot of innocents on both side are on the line and it reeks: If Iranians would want to send some help for Gaza, normally I would be ok with it and I would also be ok with them being angry if their convoys would be attacked. However, as Bilbo stated, their President is a freak, the kind of freak you can't but have to take seriously because of the power he has but the very last man who should seat anywhere near power. I imagine that after the stupid war Israel waged on Lebanon, obliterating the country but being kicked out badly by a Nasrallah, losing more soldiers than the Hezbollah lost men and getting 16 tanks destroyed on top, The Hezbollah could be keen in kicking them in the teeth... I guess that Syria and Iran wouldn't mind a little help after having been bullied for years and Turkey, if they do not provide help, won't let the american use their territory to help Israel if needs is there....
I don't think that Israel would use the nuke though because they know that if they do that, there is no more Jerusalem on the map but nastiness can be titan like on both side... Bad time to live in the Middle East I tell ya.

[CFH]

I see no way, short of regime change and perhaps complete revolution in Iran, that war can be avoided.

Biblical stuff aside, what interests do China and Russia have in the Middle East that would cause them to go to war on the side of the Arabs? Is it just oil like everyone else? For some reason I always thought/assumed that China had their own oil resources.

[killersheep]

I see no way, short of regime change and perhaps complete revolution in Iran, that war can be avoided.

Biblical stuff aside, what interests do China and Russia have in the Middle East that would cause them to go to war on the side of the Arabs? Is it just oil like everyone else? For some reason I always thought/assumed that China had their own oil resources.

China is the second highest consumer of oil at 7.99 million barrels per day, Russia comes in fourth at 2.8 million barrels per day.

China produces 3.725 million barrels per day which leaves a 4.265 million barrel a day deficit clearly the must make up that deficit

Russia on the other hand 9.876 millions barrels per day leaving a surplus of over 7 million barrels per day, however their government is run by oil tycoons, there is no that's enough oil scenario here.

Nobody is going to attack Iran while there is a possibility of a nuclear weapon (except maybe Israel of course, but the US, EU, UK will not be the ones to preemptively strike). The precedent has already been set by the worlds reaction to North Korea.

As to the point of Turkey siding with Iran, I don't think that's likely they know who has the bigger arsenal.

The frightening truth however is war is a very real possibility. As a microcosm of M.A.D. there are certainly reflections to be made about the cold war here, with war monger corporations (Lockheed, Northup Grumman etc.) making vast fortunes. The difference being Gorbachev and Reagan were much more stable heads of state. And currently the puppeteers of the middle east from around the globe standing to make vast fortunes on raping the desert of it's oil.

[mattboxingfan]

Sorry guys but i don't watch a lot of news so i dont have much clue about what going on between Israel and Iran, I know Iran was bombed by the Israelis and there were lots of civilian deaths? I would be very greatful if someone could fill me in and just give me a summary of whats happening between these countries you dont have to make it huge. Muchly appreciate it guys

[Kev]

Sorry guys but i don't watch a lot of news so i dont have much clue about what going on between Israel and Iran, I know Iran was bombed by the Israelis and there were lots of civilian deaths? I would be very greatful if someone could fill me in and just give me a summary of whats happening between these countries you dont have to make it huge. Muchly appreciate it guys

ha you're right you don't watch the news much! Israel haven't bombed Iran yet.

Anyway the crisis revolves around Iran's nuclear program. They are close to having the capability to build nukes, and Israel cannot allow that to happen as Iran is run by a crackpot whose foreign policy towards Israel is their total destruction.

If Iran get to the point where they could have nuclear weapons that could be used on Israel, the Jews may have no choice but to preemptively strike and bomb all of Iran's nuclear production facilities to prevent them from completing the bomb.

Iran have a lot of very powerful supporters however, not least Russia and China and so potentially this could end up a world of trouble, and in an absolute worst case scenario a Third World War.

It shouldn't come to that, but there's an awful of simmering under the surface of the Middle East right now, and it could erupt big time.

[mattboxingfan]

Sorry guys but i don't watch a lot of news so i dont have much clue about what going on between Israel and Iran, I know Iran was bombed by the Israelis and there were lots of civilian deaths? I would be very greatful if someone could fill me in and just give me a summary of whats happening between these countries you dont have to make it huge. Muchly appreciate it guys

ha you're right you don't watch the news much! Israel haven't bombed Iran yet.

Anyway the crisis revolves around Iran's nuclear program. They are close to having the capability to build nukes, and Israel cannot allow that to happen as Iran is run by a crackpot whose foreign policy towards Israel is their total destruction.

If Iran get to the point where they could have nuclear weapons that could be used on Israel, the Jews may have no choice but to preemptively strike and bomb all of Iran's nuclear production facilities to prevent them from completing the bomb.

Iran have a lot of very powerful supporters however, not least Russia and China and so potentially this could end up a world of trouble, and in an absolute worst case scenario a Third World War.

It shouldn't come to that, but there's an awful of simmering under the surface of the Middle East right now, and it could erupt big time.

Thanks for that Bilbo! Is Iran's leader a muslim? And i've just read up a bit on the subject and im stumped as to why Israel is killing all these innocent Iranians?

[Kev]

Sorry guys but i don't watch a lot of news so i dont have much clue about what going on between Israel and Iran, I know Iran was bombed by the Israelis and there were lots of civilian deaths? I would be very greatful if someone could fill me in and just give me a summary of whats happening between these countries you dont have to make it huge. Muchly appreciate it guys

ha you're right you don't watch the news much! Israel haven't bombed Iran yet.

Anyway the crisis revolves around Iran's nuclear program. They are close to having the capability to build nukes, and Israel cannot allow that to happen as Iran is run by a crackpot whose foreign policy towards Israel is their total destruction.

If Iran get to the point where they could have nuclear weapons that could be used on Israel, the Jews may have no choice but to preemptively strike and bomb all of Iran's nuclear production facilities to prevent them from completing the bomb.

Iran have a lot of very powerful supporters however, not least Russia and China and so potentially this could end up a world of trouble, and in an absolute worst case scenario a Third World War.

It shouldn't come to that, but there's an awful of simmering under the surface of the Middle East right now, and it could erupt big time.

Thanks for that Bilbo! Is Iran's leader a muslim? And i've just read up a bit on the subject and im stumped as to why Israel is killing all these innocent Iranians?

Yes aside from Israel the entire Middle East is muslim,and the Arab muslims despise the Jews. If you picture a Tolkienesque landscape with a few thousand beautiful and noble, immortal elves surrounded by millions and millions of ugly Orcs and Urak Hai led by dark sorcerers and evil overlords you'll have the right picture.

This has been going on for 3500 years with those mighty immortal elves (Jews) facing down the Dark Hordes in impossible circumstances. My sig will show you the nations and civilisations stupid enough to think they could take out the Jewish race and the status table will show you how that worked out for them.

If Iran and the Arab world do attack Israel they will get beaten worse and more one sidedly than Ricky Hatton against Manny Pacquaio