Very cool video regarding Israel's defensible borders and territory negotiations.

[CFH]

It's not just the Palestinians that hate Israel though it's the entire Arab world.

Actually prior to their 1948 War of Independence the Palestinians and Jews lived in peace side by side.

It wasn't the Palestinians and the Israeli's that declared war on each other, it was the other Arab nations. They declared war on Israel and then commanded the Palestinians to leave or else be fought as enemies along with Israel. They were promised their land back after the Arabs won this easy war.

Only it didn't work out for them quite like that, they had their asses kicked and then the Palestinians were homeless.

At the same time, and seemingly missed by most, the Arab world expelled 800,000 Arab Jews from Syria, Iran, Jordan etc and stole all of their homes, land and possession.s

These 800,000 homeless made their way to the fledging Israeli nation who welcomed them like brothers, took them in, gave them full citizenship, and amazingly didn't ask the rest of the world for a penny in aid to do so. They just absorbed the burden of them into their nation without complaint.

Meanwhile the Arabs did fuck all for the Palestinians but preferred to keep them in refugee camps as their propaganda tool against the Jews.

This is a great read here. http://97.74.65.51/media/pdf/BigLies.pdf

I'm not trying to be a dick, but that is totally untrue. There were frequently clashes between the two groups from pretty much the beginning of the Mandate.

[Kev]

It's not just the Palestinians that hate Israel though it's the entire Arab world.

Actually prior to their 1948 War of Independence the Palestinians and Jews lived in peace side by side.

It wasn't the Palestinians and the Israeli's that declared war on each other, it was the other Arab nations. They declared war on Israel and then commanded the Palestinians to leave or else be fought as enemies along with Israel. They were promised their land back after the Arabs won this easy war.

Only it didn't work out for them quite like that, they had their asses kicked and then the Palestinians were homeless.

At the same time, and seemingly missed by most, the Arab world expelled 800,000 Arab Jews from Syria, Iran, Jordan etc and stole all of their homes, land and possession.s

These 800,000 homeless made their way to the fledging Israeli nation who welcomed them like brothers, took them in, gave them full citizenship, and amazingly didn't ask the rest of the world for a penny in aid to do so. They just absorbed the burden of them into their nation without complaint.

Meanwhile the Arabs did fuck all for the Palestinians but preferred to keep them in refugee camps as their propaganda tool against the Jews.

This is a great read here. http://97.74.65.51/media/pdf/BigLies.pdf

I'm not trying to be a dick, but that is totally untrue. There were frequently clashes between the two groups from pretty much the beginning of the Mandate.

Nah you are right, I meant from the Israeli side and before the Balfour Declaration. Some jews have always remained in Israel and the Arab world down the last few thousand years.

But the Palestinians didn't invade Israel, it was the Arab nations, and those Arab nations told the Palestines to get out, until they had cleaned up. It wasn't the Israeli's who created the refugee problem it was the Arabs.

Also Israel bore the burden of the 800,000 Arab Jews who were kicked out of Syria, Egypt, Jordan etc and welcomed them to their own homeland. The Arabs took all of their property and belongings totalling billions of pounds in today's money, more than enough to sort the problem of their own Palestinian brothers but they didn't because they are just barbaric races.


But this is the thing I don't get. If you attack a nation and go to war and lose, and your land gets taken away, well that's just tough shit pretty much. You can't aggressively attack another nation without warning and then complain when they kick your ass and take control of some of your land to defend their own borders against future attacks.

[Kev]

Anyway, watch the video, it's good.