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    Default Re: Very cool video regarding Israel's defensible borders and territory negotiations.

    6. Was poorly worded actually. Denying of direct aid to Gaza woud have been better and also I would add in something about the draconian restrictions upon what is also allowed in. No cement= no reconstruction. Not good when a good proportion of the place is rubble.

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    And now my final turn to hark back on about the flotilla before heading to work. It is hardly an independant enquiry is it though? And the Irish dude is heavily pro Israeli, they have been handpicked for crying out loud. Is that satisfactory? Independant means no strings attached and Israel knows it cannot do that because it WILL be found guilty as charged. Just like in the Goldstone report which even now Israel fails to recognise because once again it was in the wrong.

    I have no axe to grind with peaceful nations. How often do you see me rant against Sweden or Canada for instance? Anyway, I'm off to work, catch ya later.

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    According to Hitchens this confirmation; "by an Israeli historian using the most scrupulous and authentic Zionist sources, at last allows us to write finis to a debate which has been going on for a quarter of a century [...] between Erskine B. Childers and Jon Kimche."
    In The Spectator 12 May 1961 Dr. Childers first wrote of his bafflement about the well-known Israeli claim that the Palestinians had been urged to flee by their own leadership:
    Examining every official Israeli statement about the Arab exodus, I was struck by the fact that no primary evidence of evacuation orders was ever produced. The charge, Israel claimed, was "documented"; but where were the documents? There had allegedly been Arab radio broadcasts ordering the evacuation; but no dates, names of stations, or texts of messages were ever cited. In Israel in 1958, as a guest of the Foreign Office and therefore doubly hopeful of serious assistance, I asked to be shown the proofs, I was assured they existed, and was promised them. None had been offered when I left, but I was again assured. I asked to have the material sent on to me. I am still waiting.............

    Childers also investigated the claims that Monsignor George Hakim, then Greek Catholic bishop of Galilee, had reported exhortations to his flock to leave. "I hold" wrote Childers, "signed letters from him, with permission to publish, in which he categorically denied ever alleging Arab evacuation orders; he states that no such orders were ever given. He says that his name has been abused for years, and that the Arabs fled because of panic and forcible eviction."
    The BBC monitored all Middle Eastern broadcasts throughout 1948, and those records, and companion ones by a U.S. monitoring unit, could be seen at the British Museum. Dr. Childers decided to go through the lot. His conclusion was:
    There was not a single order, or appeal, or suggestion about evacuation from Palestine from any Arab radio station, inside or outside Palestine, in 1948. There is repeated monitored record of Arab appeals, even flat orders, to the civilians of Palestine to stay put.[2]


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