Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
Yea Lyle I think your a awsome poster for the most part,but you undieing love for Foreman,Dempsey etc.. and all the other old school fighters is a bit of tunnel vision on your part

TYSON WAS A ONE OF A KIND A PURE EXPLOSIVE PACKAGE...His combonation of attributes did no exist back in the old days,there was no one remotely like him NOT EVEN CLOSE..There is more reason and substantial evidence to conclude Tyson would have beaten the old school fighters..

I mean sure there were great Fighter planes and awsome pilots in WW2 but if you were to pit them against fighter jets they would get fried!!! its called evolution of things, when there is something good out there it has its time and after a while (years,decade,etc) something better replaces it...That is the case 99% of the time with a rare 1% being the exception..

Lets say Tyson was around in the late 60's-70's,Tyson would have had a Cus D'mato his whole career to mold him guide him and mentor him(I can stop the convo right here) but what he had to offer ESPECIALLY in the that time frame would have been as rare and maybe borderline mythical as a Unicorn!!!!!

Tyson would have destroyed Dempsey,Tunney, Foreman,Frazier,Norton,Ron Lyle,Marciano(not in the 70's) and I say he would have even beaten ALI
WELL SAID THAT MAN!

Quote Originally Posted by miles
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
...enough with all the warm fuzzy memories of "Prime Tyson" yeah he hit hard, yeah he was the youngest champ ever but Michael Spinks was a light heavyweight, that win did not (in my opinion) solidify him as the best heavyweight at the time....the win over Berbick did.

Tyson still had his flaws even waaaaay back in his prime years.


Any heavyweight...ok

George Foreman that beat Frazier

The Frazier that beat Ali

The Riddick Bowe who whipped Holyfield

The Holyfield who beat Bowe

The Lennox Lewis who thrashed Rahman

The Joe Louis who beat Max Baer

The Jack Dempsey who beat Jess Willard

There are a number of guys who would have beat Mike, bigger or smaller, it doesn't matter...there are only a HANDFUL of great Mike could contend with....don't call me a hater, Mike was fun to watch but it's the truth, people are so enamered by the KO's the forget to look at the actual style and skill...which yes he had great skill in his style but his style was EXTREMELY flawed as was he emotionally and mentally
IMO Tyson has a shot at beating any one of those guys....prime for prime Tyson is a great and should not be belittled because of Tyson revisionism which tends towards belittling what he was doing throughout the 80's because of a lacklustre 1990's....

hindsight is a blessing and a curse....if tyson was to retire after the bruno fight he would renowned as an all time great for all time, now we have doubters who have seen the lewis fight and suggest that this is what we should judge tyson on....I dont buy it...

PrimeTyson wasnt just a fun fighter to watch, he was a skilled, physical specimen who could put up a good fight against any of the greats IMO and more often than not be the victor....
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