Well done usa!!

[El Kabong]

I didn't see it but that all but puts us through I'd imagine.

We should put at least 4 past Algeria and then will only need a draw against Slovenia to be certain of qualification. Easy easy!


What about Germany? HAHA!!! Well done Serbs!

Yeah I know. This tourney started shit IMO but is now getting interesting mate.

....that was crap reffing...9 yellows?!?!?! Really!!!


We had a shit first half, we conceded one goal on a marking mistake and the other one we just couldn't help, hell of a goal but Donovan, Bradley, and Edu had great performances to draw us to an "even" 3-2 draw.

Anyone notice the star Slovenian looked like Louis from American Psycho? Same haircut and all....

[amat]

England puts 0 past Algeria Bilbo

[Kel]

England puts 0 past Algeria Bilbo

It's a fucking disgrace with the players we have. Green has scored more fucking goals than Rooney for fucks sake.

[Kev]

We really are fucking shit. I mean, Algeria?


Right now I'm not confident we could even get a draw with Slovenia, let alone the win we need.

Fucking awful, get Postman Pat out and get someone like Martin O'Neil in.

[AdamGB]

I don't know why everybody is so surprised...

We didn't even qualify for the Euro's. How exactly do you go from that to winning the world cup? Just making it past the first stage will be an improvement.

We are not an elite world class team... it's not the management, the players don't need to get inspired to awake some slumbering football rapture - we're just not that good, not much more to it than that I'm afraid.

If we were that good and it was management and tactics etc, then maybe we'd have only beaten Algeria (who haven't been in the world cup for 24 years and who's captain had never been in an international tornament) by 4 nil and not 5 nil. Not had a goaless draw

Massive hype job... everytime round... ignore the papers...

No ammount of changes is going to have us beating Brazil, Spain, France, Argentinia etc. no fucking chance.

That's why I loved it when Newcastle went down... all these dick heads blaming the club owners and saying that Newcastle were a slumbering giant... as big as Chelsea etc... fuck off

[OumaFan]

I don't know why everybody is so surprised...

We didn't even qualify for the Euro's. How exactly do you go from that to winning the world cup? Just making it past the first stage will be an improvement.

We are not an elite world class team... it's not the management, the players don't need to get inspired to awake some slumbering football rapture - we're just not that good, not much more to it than that I'm afraid.

If we were that good and it was management and tactics etc, then maybe we'd have only beaten Algeria (who haven't been in the world cup for 24 years and who's captain had never been in an international tornament) by 4 nil and not 5 nil. Not had a goaless draw

Massive hype job... everytime round... ignore the papers...

No ammount of changes is going to have us beating Brazil, Spain, France, Argentinia etc. no fucking chance.

That's why I loved it when Newcastle went down... all these dick heads blaming the club owners and saying that Newcastle were a slumbering giant... as big as Chelsea etc... fuck off

To be fair they've looked awful this year. Worse than England IMO.

[Kev]

I don't know why everybody is so surprised...

We didn't even qualify for the Euro's. How exactly do you go from that to winning the world cup? Just making it past the first stage will be an improvement.

We are not an elite world class team... it's not the management, the players don't need to get inspired to awake some slumbering football rapture - we're just not that good, not much more to it than that I'm afraid.

If we were that good and it was management and tactics etc, then maybe we'd have only beaten Algeria (who haven't been in the world cup for 24 years and who's captain had never been in an international tornament) by 4 nil and not 5 nil. Not had a goaless draw

Massive hype job... everytime round... ignore the papers...

No ammount of changes is going to have us beating Brazil, Spain, France, Argentinia etc. no fucking chance.

That's why I loved it when Newcastle went down... all these dick heads blaming the club owners and saying that Newcastle were a slumbering giant... as big as Chelsea etc... fuck off

This post is ridiculous Adam. So are you saying we should just give up supporting our national team and that we'll never amount to anything?

Beside's it crap, as we SHOULD be good. We have some of the biggest clubs in the world, in fact I believe Man Utd is the biggest, we have arguably the best and richest premiership league in world football, and we have undoubtably several absolute world class players.

With the players, domestic infrastructure, fanbase, money, name etc we should be one of the top 4 or 5 teams in Europe no excuses.

Players like Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard etc could get into virtually any national team in the world. But they are not simply not performing.

That's not the best these players can do, not even close.

[BIG H]

Sad fact is Lampard and Gerard suffer from 'John Barnes syndrome' they have never recreated their club form for England. Watching them week in week out in the EPL, you would think thet could make almost any starting 11 in the world, but for England they have played about 160 games between them and only had ahandful of really good performances each.

It's not like playing teams like Algeria means playing against better opposition than they face in the EPL, the EPL has some of the best players in the wordl

It's baffling!

Capello is too stubborn and pig headed! He needs to tell the players the team 4 or 5 days before the game so they can prepare as a 'Team' in training, he needs to accept that 4-4-2 doesn't work aswell!!







As for U.S.A - That is what I call commitment and team spirit. A pleasure to watch!!!

[AdamGB]

I don't know why everybody is so surprised...

We didn't even qualify for the Euro's. How exactly do you go from that to winning the world cup? Just making it past the first stage will be an improvement.

We are not an elite world class team... it's not the management, the players don't need to get inspired to awake some slumbering football rapture - we're just not that good, not much more to it than that I'm afraid.

If we were that good and it was management and tactics etc, then maybe we'd have only beaten Algeria (who haven't been in the world cup for 24 years and who's captain had never been in an international tournament) by 4 nil and not 5 nil. Not had a goalless draw

Massive hype job... every time round... ignore the papers...

No amount of changes is going to have us beating Brazil, Spain, France, Argentina etc. no fucking chance.

That's why I loved it when Newcastle went down... all these dick heads blaming the club owners and saying that Newcastle were a slumbering giant... as big as Chelsea etc... fuck off

This post is ridiculous Adam. So are you saying we should just give up supporting our national team and that we'll never amount to anything?

Besides it crap, as we SHOULD be good. We have some of the biggest clubs in the world, in fact I believe Man Utd is the biggest, we have arguably the best and richest premiership league in world football, and we have undoubtably several absolute world class players.

With the players, domestic infrastructure, fanbase, money, name etc we should be one of the top 4 or 5 teams in Europe no excuses.

Players like Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard etc could get into virtually any national team in the world. But they are not simply not performing.

That's not the best these players can do, not even close.

Not at all Bilbo... Algeria and the USA's etc fans are supporting their teams, who I'm sure 99% of them know are not going to win the world cup. Nothing wrong with that.

It's the arrogance and gullibility of the average English football fan during the pre tournament hype that gets me... we've 'consistently under performed for decades'... are you not seeing the pattern here?

A few of our players probably could get into most top clubs... but they wouldn't see half of the fuss that they do over here.. they wouldn't ge anywhere near the appraisal of accolades off the fans of those clubs.

They're treated like gods in this country... which is part of the reason why they think they don't actually have to play any football and still win.

It's a lot easier to play well when you're surrounded by the best players in the world, but when you're getting balls from the likes of Heskey and every touch you make needs to count for something thats when you see whether you're a good player or not.

Gerrard managed to trip over thin air for fucks sake... every touch of the ball Rooney had (all four of them) was bollocks... I could play a better game of football than he did, not even joking.

There's under performing and then there's being out played by Algeria... it's not like you could see we were better but nothing was coming together... England didn't look a class above Algeria... in my opinion Algeria were pretty unlucky not to walk away with 2 points.

good individuals don't make a good team... they don't have the attitude (Rooney being 'upset at the fans' who are stupid enough to make him obscenely rich says it all) to be a good team... and it's the team I'm talking about. I would be more shocked at us making the quater finals than I would if we went out this round.

Not saying don't support the team... but people need to get real... that way they'll be able to enjoy the cup instead of suffering the sheeple angst they seem to go through every time we 'underperform every time' (ie our expectations are always set higher than our actual ability)