Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
OK so you doubt me and my choices?

First off I will say Mike Tyson is not the best heavyweight ever, Prime Mike Tyson is not the best heavyweight ever either. Tyson is not infallable, a JAB?!?! hahahahaha Tyson had no jab he had a little flcik of a left hand but it was just a distraction for his hooks and uppercuts and overhand rights.

To beat Mike Tyson here is what you need
1. A chin
2. heart
3. good work rate
4. power (right upper cut/ 1-2)
5. it also helps to have a good jab and appropriate defense

Based on those factors here are my explinations

Wlad wouldn't last a round with Prime Tyson and if he did last A round he wouldn't last 2-3 more.

Vitali could concievably take Tyson's best shots as he has NEVER been knocked down amateur or pro (the Maskaev KO was a ref stoppage in the amateurs, don't bring up Pele Reid, that was kickboxing and a kick to the leg) no one can 100% say Tyson would beat Vitali ...now hang on. Even in his prime if you get Tyson past 5 rounds you have a better and better shot at beating him as the fight goes on and with Vitali's power I think he frustrates even a prime Tyson either losing a UD or maybe Vitali stops him or wins a UD himself.

As for Joe Louis...he was a GREAT boxer, as Tyson was a brawler. Yeah his competition wasn't great but he (especially after the Schmelling fight) was always ready to fight. As a good boxer he could stick Tyson and move out of the way, he had a great right hand and never threw punches to where he would end up out of position (which is where Tyson KO'd most of the scared guys he got in the ring with)

Dempsey or Marciano, yeah maybe it's a stretch but those guys had heart and they fought 15 round fights! They had the will, the stamina, and carried the power to beat Tyson. Those are guys no matter how hard Mike tried he wouldn't be able to get them out in the first 3 rounds.

George Foreman in my honest opinion would beat the ugly off of Mike Tyson! In Foreman you have a guy who is the strongest puncher ever, who instead of clobbering a light heavyweight to win the title he beat Joe Frazier in 2 rounds!!! Frazier had previously never been floored, and never lost much less been KO'd. And Menacing WOW...6'3 220 more than enough size to handle Tyson's bully tactics...Mike would wet his pants and hide in his corner.

Joe Frazier...he had a left hook, heart, determination, and the up and down head movement needed to be missed by Tyson's hooks. Plus an added benefit EDDIE FUTCH who was a lot better at giving advice than Kevin Rooney.

Riddick Bowe not beat Tyson?!?!? Are you F****** kidding me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI83P...bowe-holyfield there is my case for Bowe AND Holyfield beating Tyson. Bowe would make Tyson look horrible he was a good boxer with great power and he had every punch in the arsenal

Lennox Lewis was like Bowe but he didn't brawl or mix it up as much so yeah he was boring but he was more in control of the pace of the fight and he also had power.
Good rebuttable!!!! Early Tyson worked off Jab and Combos...

Already discussed Frazier Foreman vs Tyson Fights with you a few weeks back

from 6/06/06(imagine that)

I agree on how fearful people were of George he was a beast!!!!But I have watched alot Foreman fights and I was a big fan of his comeback as well as his history. The truth is George had no defense and lacked in the speed department...Early Tyson who jabbed and set up his combo's would be way to fast for George he would be overwhelmed,Tyson would land devasteing shots through Georges leaky defense..

Tyson Ko's George in 6..Only cause George is holding Tyson more than punching him or if it was a slugfest Tyson in 2, SC all you want its the truth..

Tyson was just as feared if not more than George...Everyone focuses on Tysons power which was some of the best ever,early Tyson had middleweight hand speed with devestating Power and 5-6 punch combos...THAT IS THE INTIMIDATIG PART...Nuclear missles coming at you like they were shot out of an UZI!!!!

from 6/04/06

Joe would have a signifigant disadvantage in the speed department..To me the amazing thing about Tyson wasnt just his feroscious punching power but his ability to throw 4-5 punch combo's with blazing speed...Early Tyson wasnt always looking for the big bomb..He would set his combo's off the Jab and then BOOM, BOOM, BANG, SPLAT... GOODNITE!!!

I see Joe Getting overwhelmed By Tysons Handspeed and eventually wilt from Tysons power....Joe would be game of course, constantly moving forward and standing in front of Mike he would take 2-3 to give 1 and you cant do that with Mike. He Would destroy him...Just as Bad as Foreman did if not worse...Remember Tyson always did well with people who came forward and stood in front of him..

Tyson by TKO or KO round 3

Thats my story and I am sticking to it