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    Default Re: Jab seems to be the most tiring punch ! also getting bored on the bags...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie_Egg View Post
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    As this is all happening the legs are moving also.
    The front leg after the small step is straightening, pivoting and pushing back (Your ass should move away from where you are punching) and the rear leg pushes forward.
    This gives you more reach and pushes you away from any body counter.
    I don't understand how you get "more reach" if your "ass should move away" -- would please elaborate on this?


    I am quiet tall with a long reach over 2m. And this is how i get the most out of my reach. The jab is very important to my game and im always working on it. I probably throw 4-5 or more jabs:1 of other punches. And i work it like that on the bag also.
    Ok, I am not tall (5'10") and have very long arms for my size, but even I am jealous of 2 METERS (I'm close but not THAT close.)

    Wytster: As your shadow boxing you could try get a squash ball...squeeze the ball/clench your fist it should make a hiss. Then relax the hand again and pull it back. This should help you to relax the muscles in the arm whilst punching.
    What a cool idea!

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    Default Re: Jab seems to be the most tiring punch ! also getting bored on the bags...

    Quote Originally Posted by HerbM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie_Egg View Post
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    As this is all happening the legs are moving also.
    The front leg after the small step is straightening, pivoting and pushing back (Your ass should move away from where you are punching) and the rear leg pushes forward.
    This gives you more reach and pushes you away from any body counter.
    I don't understand how you get "more reach" if your "ass should move away" -- would please elaborate on this?

    It is hard to explain ill get the missus to take a few pics when she is home from work it will be alot easier. Or ill probably confuse you more, it is hard to get your head around but it works. And i probably shouldn't say "ass moves away" But more upwards and not forward. Pics to come


    I am quiet tall with a long reach over 2m. And this is how i get the most out of my reach. The jab is very important to my game and im always working on it. I probably throw 4-5 or more jabs:1 of other punches. And i work it like that on the bag also.
    Ok, I am not tall (5'10") and have very long arms for my size, but even I am jealous of 2 METERS (I'm close but not THAT close.)

    Its handy but have a way to go to use it very effectively.

    Wytster: As your shadow boxing you could try get a squash ball...squeeze the ball/clench your fist it should make a hiss. Then relax the hand again and pull it back. This should help you to relax the muscles in the arm whilst punching.
    What a cool idea!
    It helped me so thought it could help Wyster. Pretty crude but i found effective and its cheap.

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    Default Re: Jab seems to be the most tiring punch ! also getting bored on the bags...

    cheers for the replies guys,

    I've got my jab a bit smoother now not putting my weight into it every time, I think I just need to keep training to strengthen my shoulder, going to try sparring class in the next couple of wks.

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    Default Re: Jab seems to be the most tiring punch ! also getting bored on the bags...

    I agree with everyone on here. Get that technique right for sure is the first thing. Also as much as you dislike the heavy bag, start goin about 5 plus rounds of nothing but jab on the heavy to condition that arm and shoulder.

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    Default Re: Jab seems to be the most tiring punch ! also getting bored on the bags...

    Quote Originally Posted by cambay411 View Post
    I agree with everyone on here. Get that technique right for sure is the first thing. Also as much as you dislike the heavy bag, start goin about 5 plus rounds of nothing but jab on the heavy to condition that arm and shoulder.
    That recommendation for "5 plus rounds" seems a bit long to me.

    Ok, I am an "old guy" at 58 this week, but usually I can outlast most of the young guys, and we only do three (3 min) rounds of hitting, all punches, and them MAYBE 2 x 1 minute 'rounds' of 'burn out' (hard left-right, left-right).

    Maybe you are right about 5+ rounds, but I am remain unsure we can know that without knowing what else he is doing and how hard he is going at those rounds.

    Of course it is summer here in Texas, and we are pushing close to 95 degrees (F) here in the gym, and higher humidity than we are used to having.

    The heat has been zapping me pretty bad even.

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    Default Re: Jab seems to be the most tiring punch ! also getting bored on the bags...

    Thanks all, I myself was doing too much of a full bodied step in -- rather than doing a "Fall Step" - need to make my jab more effortless. What holds me back is the fear of wasting jabs etc

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    Default Re: Jab seems to be the most tiring punch ! also getting bored on the bags...

    Quote Originally Posted by BodyOfWork165 View Post
    Thanks all, I myself was doing too much of a full bodied step in -- rather than doing a "Fall Step" - need to make my jab more effortless. What holds me back is the fear of wasting jabs etc
    Jabs are cheap, almost free, and plentiful, almost infinite. Use 'em or lose 'em, since a jab you don't throw is forever gone.

    Seriously, my Coach says, "If he throws one, you throw three."

    While that might not be perfect advice, the point is to keep him busy. And not all of those 'jabs' need to be power jabs. They include range finding, distraction, feints, setups, blinding jabs, 'keep him honest' jabs, 'keep him off', and of course power jabs.

    I like the falling step because I can tack it on RIGHT NEAR THE END of the jab when I can be sure I am going to make good contact, and all without over-committing my weight (it goes to the hand, and the front foot goes right back to the floor to take the weight back almost immediately.)
    Last edited by HerbM; 07-25-2010 at 06:03 AM.

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