Margarito-Pacquiao seems dangerous to me

[Hornfinger]

There isn't any proof that Pacman cheated at all, I think they just didn't want to fight Mayweather at that time, and he was pissed off by what Mayweather's camp was saying.

So if I get accused of killing somone, as long as I don't turn up to court I'm innocent?

If I have the oppotunity to clear my name and earn a few million off it at the same time but refuse it all rather than go to court I'm innocent anyway am I?

The ONLY reason why there is no evidence of pac is cuz he refused testing.

Everyone on this site thought margarito was a fair sports man till he got found out. Now since that everyone on hear is screaming that toni cheated his whole carear.

People need to stop being so thickle.

Guy in order to charge to someone with a crime there has to be evidence to issue the arrest warrant. What PBF camp did was the equivalent of picking a random person off the street and saying "Hey you could have killed that guy, now prove you didn't"..That's fucking stupid. PBF's camp accusations of steroid usage by PAC are unfounded allegations without any shred of evidence other than Floyd senior feeling uncomfortable about pac moving up in weight and bringing his power along with him. Therefore pac shouldn't have to agree to shit.

PBF camp picked a random person? Eh? how many random people have gone up 7 weight divisions without putting on an once of fat, only lean muscle and have got stronger and stronger doing it? That's an everyday event where you're from is it?

And JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT IS IT YOU AND EVERY ONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM CAN'T SEEM TO GRASP ABOUT THE FOLLOWING CONCEPT!?

HERE IT IS AGAIN...

THE ONLY REASON WHY 'THERE ISN'T A SHRED OF PROOF' IS CUZ HE REFUSED TO TAKE THE TEST. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON. IT IS DOWN TO THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE IS CLEAN.

Until pac proves he's clean i'm going to regard him as a cheating bastard that should be struck from the sport. he is no better than margarito.

[JonesJrMayweather]

There isn't any proof that Pacman cheated at all, I think they just didn't want to fight Mayweather at that time, and he was pissed off by what Mayweather's camp was saying.

So if I get accused of killing somone, as long as I don't turn up to court I'm innocent?

If I have the oppotunity to clear my name and earn a few million off it at the same time but refuse it all rather than go to court I'm innocent anyway am I?

The ONLY reason why there is no evidence of pac is cuz he refused testing.

Everyone on this site thought margarito was a fair sports man till he got found out. Now since that everyone on hear is screaming that toni cheated his whole carear.

People need to stop being so thickle.

Guy in order to charge to someone with a crime there has to be evidence to issue the arrest warrant. What PBF camp did was the equivalent of picking a random person off the street and saying "Hey you could have killed that guy, now prove you didn't"..That's fucking stupid. PBF's camp accusations of steroid usage by PAC are unfounded allegations without any shred of evidence other than Floyd senior feeling uncomfortable about pac moving up in weight and bringing his power along with him. Therefore pac shouldn't have to agree to shit.

PBF camp picked a random person? Eh? how many random people have gone up 7 weight divisions without putting on an once of fat, only lean muscle and have got stronger and stronger doing it? That's an everyday event where you're from is it?

And JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT IS IT YOU AND EVERY ONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM CAN'T SEEM TO GRASP ABOUT THE FOLLOWING CONCEPT!?

HERE IT IS AGAIN...

THE ONLY REASON WHY 'THERE ISN'T A SHRED OF PROOF' IS CUZ HE REFUSED TO TAKE THE TEST. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON. IT IS DOWN TO THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE IS CLEAN.

Until pac proves he's clean i'm going to regard him as a cheating bastard that should be struck from the sport. he is no better than margarito.

PAC started at 106 when he was 17 years old, and his heaviest weigh in is 145 against clottey. That's 14 years and 39 pounds. Forget weight classes focus on the weight.

If that's not enough let's go by age. Pac when he was 19 fought at 113. 113(19yrs) to 145(31yrs) is 32 pounds in 12 years. When Floyd he fought at 119(19yrs old) and 150 (30yrs old) that's 31 pounds in a shorter time. Both without a shred of fat.

It could be argued that floyd only knew he'd be clean against mosley because he came up with the idea to avoid suspicion himself and the mosley fight was a test to see how he'd do without his roids before facing PACMAN, but his camp has been very quiet since the mosley fight, possibly because without his roids he was almost kayoed by a 39 year old that hadn't fought in 15 months.

Secondly, you mean Pac has been the only fighter allowed to enter the ring without being tested for all those fights? Wow, didn't know that...

[Hornfinger]

Pacs biggest jump in weight only happend over the last couple of years. so yes if we focus on weight then it actually does look more dodgey. And you can't bring floyd into this. Why? cuz he past the test! LOL theres no question marks.

How many other fighters were accused, offer the chance of testing and refused (and thats not even mentioning the amount of money involved)? Please let me know and i'll be talking exactly the same way about those guys too.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Pacs biggest jump in weight only happend over the last couple of years. so yes if we focus on weight then it actually does look more dodgey. And you can't bring floyd into this. Why? cuz he past the test! LOL theres no question marks.

How many other fighters were accused, offer the chance of testing and refused (and thats not even mentioning the amount of money involved)? Please let me know and i'll be talking exactly the same way about those guys too.

LEt's not forget that Pac has agreed to everything and was waiting on PBF's response this past week and its floyd that's ghost...

[Chino]

Pacs biggest jump in weight only happend over the last couple of years. so yes if we focus on weight then it actually does look more dodgey. And you can't bring floyd into this. Why? cuz he past the test! LOL theres no question marks.

How many other fighters were accused, offer the chance of testing and refused (and thats not even mentioning the amount of money involved)? Please let me know and i'll be talking exactly the same way about those guys too.

LEt's not forget that Pac has agreed to everything and was waiting on PBF's response this past week and its floyd that's ghost...

Bob Arum has said they agreed to have the blood being tested or how they are fine with a blood test but didn't want to go into details. I am yet to hear/see Bob Arum say that they totally agree to an Olympic Style Random Blood/Urine Tests just like Shane Mosley did with no problem whatsoever. If there is a video out there on YouTube where Bob Arum agrees to it just like that, I would like to see it. Not just a vague "we have agreed to some tests...things have been negotiated, just waiting on Floyd...". Can't really trust a guy who is known to be a snake, support and defend a cheat, and look for contradicting excuses to not have his guy's blood tested.

[:::PSL:::]

Pacs biggest jump in weight only happend over the last couple of years. so yes if we focus on weight then it actually does look more dodgey. And you can't bring floyd into this. Why? cuz he past the test! LOL theres no question marks.

How many other fighters were accused, offer the chance of testing and refused (and thats not even mentioning the amount of money involved)? Please let me know and i'll be talking exactly the same way about those guys too.

LEt's not forget that Pac has agreed to everything and was waiting on PBF's response this past week and its floyd that's ghost...

Bob Arum has said they agreed to have the blood being tested or how they are fine with a blood test but didn't want to go into details. I am yet to hear/see Bob Arum say that they totally agree to an Olympic Style Random Blood/Urine Tests just like Shane Mosley did with no problem whatsoever. If there is a video out there on YouTube where Bob Arum agrees to it just like that, I would like to see it. Not just a vague "we have agreed to some tests...things have been negotiated, just waiting on Floyd...". Can't really trust a guy who is known to be a snake, support and defend a cheat, and look for contradicting excuses to not have his guy's blood tested.

What's the matter, can't trust the press? Medias like yahoo boxing, fight news, ESPN's Dan Rafael and many more qouted Arum's statements regarding the drug issue. He has been pretty much vocal about Pac already agreeing to the USADA blood/urine random testing LEADING UP TO THE FIGHT... which means there's no 7,10,14, or 20 days window like Floyd and Shane did.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Pacs biggest jump in weight only happend over the last couple of years. so yes if we focus on weight then it actually does look more dodgey. And you can't bring floyd into this. Why? cuz he past the test! LOL theres no question marks.

How many other fighters were accused, offer the chance of testing and refused (and thats not even mentioning the amount of money involved)? Please let me know and i'll be talking exactly the same way about those guys too.

LEt's not forget that Pac has agreed to everything and was waiting on PBF's response this past week and its floyd that's ghost...

Bob Arum has said they agreed to have the blood being tested or how they are fine with a blood test but didn't want to go into details. I am yet to hear/see Bob Arum say that they totally agree to an Olympic Style Random Blood/Urine Tests just like Shane Mosley did with no problem whatsoever. If there is a video out there on YouTube where Bob Arum agrees to it just like that, I would like to see it. Not just a vague "we have agreed to some tests...things have been negotiated, just waiting on Floyd...". Can't really trust a guy who is known to be a snake, support and defend a cheat, and look for contradicting excuses to not have his guy's blood tested.

What's the matter, can't trust the press? Medias like yahoo boxing, fight news, ESPN's Dan Rafael and many more qouted Arum's statements regarding the drug issue. He has been pretty much vocal about Pac already agreeing to the USADA blood/urine random testing LEADING UP TO THE FIGHT... which means there's no 7,10,14, or 20 days window like Floyd and Shane did.

again that's what Arum said, but well as we all know Bob Arum is full of shit, if Mayweather doesn't want to sign now (even if it's with a valid excuse) Pacquiao should go ahead and look for another fight (although i don't think it should be against Cotto or Margarito)

[JonesJrMayweather]

Pacs biggest jump in weight only happend over the last couple of years. so yes if we focus on weight then it actually does look more dodgey. And you can't bring floyd into this. Why? cuz he past the test! LOL theres no question marks.

How many other fighters were accused, offer the chance of testing and refused (and thats not even mentioning the amount of money involved)? Please let me know and i'll be talking exactly the same way about those guys too.

As opposed to floyd's big jump (11 pounds) from 119-130 when he first started would be roughly 4 weight classes given and extra pound.