Extending Arms - Shadow Boxing

[jahmez]

Shadowboxing is a great way to develop speed and power as long as you are focusing on technique first. The best way to throw fluid and fast combinations is to practice them shadowboxing.

[Scrap]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

[The Student]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

[cambay411]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

Student or Scrap can you please tell me where the stretches are you are talking about in this post?!?!?!?!

[The Student]

Cambay please see the quote below, plus the link at the bottom.. there's a whole topic on scrap's stretching program... some great stuff there!

okay you did weights, at a guess i would think the muscles that oppose the action of the jab the frontal muscles of the shoulder want losening and stretching. Look at scraps stretches try the stick one you can do it with a woody band. Now another you can try is put your hands to your side. Palms facing forward then pushing your shouders back, put one of your hands behind you and put it on the forearm 4 inch above the wrist of the other arm. Now push up with the straight arm and resists with the other arm and hand, while raising, when at 90% start coming down with the bent arm and resist with the other arm 3 times each side that should sort it after 2 weeks of doing it the jab should be a lot faster. Do it 2 times a day.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...programme.html

[cambay411]

Awsome stretches i recommend everyone to read this if you get a chance. Student believe it or not im haveing a hard time understanding the stretch described in your quote lol. I imagine one forearm across my back grabbing my other arm and then using a motion like a shoulder shrug while resisting with the arm and hand grabbing that arm. Is this wrong?

[The Student]

to be honest I had a tough time understanding it as well.. Sometimes Scraps descriptions take some time do decipher, but they're well worth the time spent trying to understand.

I'll try and explain it, BUT keep in mind I might be doing it wrong as well...

1) stand casually with both your hands to the side, but your palm facing forward instead of facing your body like you would normally stand)

2) reach behind your back your back with one hand (left for this example) and grab your right forearm about 4 inches above your forearm (I'd say about half way between the wrist and the elbow

note: for this step, make sure while grabbing your forearm, your palm is facing outward to the front of your body (or to put it another way have ur palms facing the direction you are looking), If you were to naturally reach around and grab your forearm you would have your palm facing backward.

3) once you have a grip of your right forearm, slowly start lefting your arm by bending at the elbow as if your doing a slow bicep curl.

4) once you have gone up 90% of full motion in your right arm slowly bring it back down to your side

5) repeat above steps with opposite arm

6) do it 3 times for each side

7) do it twice a day



.. hope that helps.. Scrap can correct me if I'm wrong.. good luck

[WayneFlint]

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

This is the key to throwing a right hand and staying in good balance student keeping majority of the weight on the back leg and the front foot on the ball ready to explode off to return quickly back to on guard position after extending the right hand, if the left foots not up on the ball theres gonna be a lot of problems, as scrap refers to it as leaving on the biomechanical brake (the heel) which will result in a slow/lazy right hand, also like you said if you transfer to the front leg/plant the left heel your prone to being off balance or maybe not so much off balance just having too much weight distributed to the front leg which will slow down any evasive movement you may need if the right hand is being countered or a new angle has being established. basically you lose the ability to drive from the back foot as good and will also mess up the rotation of the pelvis towards the end of the shot which will result in an arm punch .

[badr_hari]

This is the key to throwing a right hand and staying in good balance student keeping majority of the weight on the back leg and the front foot on the ball ready to explode off to return quickly back to on guard position after extending the right hand, if the left foots not up on the ball theres gonna be a lot of problems, as scrap refers to it as leaving on the biomechanical brake (the heel) which will result in a slow/lazy right hand, also like you said if you transfer to the front leg/plant the left heel your prone to being off balance or maybe not so much off balance just having too much weight distributed to the front leg which will slow down any evasive movement you may need if the right hand is being countered or a new angle has being established. basically you lose the ability to drive from the back foot as good and will also mess up the rotation of the pelvis towards the end of the shot which will result in an arm punch .

sorry, but what you said is EXACTLY The Key for throwing an ARM PUNCH.

for a Powerful Right Hand (with the whole body-weight behind it) you should: Pivot with a right foot and with that automatically you transfer the weight from back to front (you can't Pivot with the back leg, stay up on the ball of the feet and still have the weight here), in the same time you make a TINY STEP-in to the left, which is the key to everything: Gives Great Balance, Maximum Power and your head will be in a position almost impossibly to counter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6xE...eature=related

at 5:28 in this video, you see that very Tiny step with the left foot and the PIVOT with the right

[Scrap]

The front Heel shouldnt be involved in the manouver, the front Heel is the Biomechanical Break. The Balance of the manouver are the Knees The Heel locks the Adductors stopping the Abductors from working . Thats what causes leaning with the shots, and loss of oral stability and balance. Usually caused with the feet being to wide, and compensating, making the shoulders tighten and slowing down speed of delivery.

[The Student]

So hold on guys, let me get this straight.. and please correct me if I' wrong.


From my understanding of it.. The heel of your back leg (or your right for orthodox boxers) should never ever touch the ground. You should always be on the balls correct?

Now, in order to throw an effective straight shot, your front (or your left) heel should never touch the ground either.. meaning that a proper boxing stance would require you to always be on the balls of your feet and never let your heels touch the ground?

If thats the case, that's one of the things I need to work on, my left heel seems to be on the ground, often.

Thanks for all the hep so far guys!

[WayneFlint]

This is the key to throwing a right hand and staying in good balance student keeping majority of the weight on the back leg and the front foot on the ball ready to explode off to return quickly back to on guard position after extending the right hand, if the left foots not up on the ball theres gonna be a lot of problems, as scrap refers to it as leaving on the biomechanical brake (the heel) which will result in a slow/lazy right hand, also like you said if you transfer to the front leg/plant the left heel your prone to being off balance or maybe not so much off balance just having too much weight distributed to the front leg which will slow down any evasive movement you may need if the right hand is being countered or a new angle has being established. basically you lose the ability to drive from the back foot as good and will also mess up the rotation of the pelvis towards the end of the shot which will result in an arm punch .

sorry, but what you said is EXACTLY The Key for throwing an ARM PUNCH.

for a Powerful Right Hand (with the whole body-weight behind it) you should: Pivot with a right foot and with that automatically you transfer the weight from back to front (you can't Pivot with the back leg, stay up on the ball of the feet and still have the weight here), in the same time you make a TINY STEP-in to the left, which is the key to everything: Gives Great Balance, Maximum Power and your head will be in a position almost impossibly to counter.



at 5:28 in this video, you see that very Tiny step with the left foot and the PIVOT with the right

Wrong, that is how YOU would throw an arm punch, i was simply explaining parts of the punch however i didnt mention 1 major trigger which i assumed even the most novice of boxers would know about (sorry about that) adds an explosive trigger for the right hand and which will also put the bones/joints of your arm/upper body in a position upon impact that will ensure your bones bear the kickback of the impact rather than the muscles, minimising risk of losing power from the elbow, wrist or shoulder jonts. if you know anything about throwing a punch you will be able to tell me what this trigger is that i missed out.. if not?.. hmm.

Im sorry if you think this impossible but i assure you i can pivot on my back foot while keeping almost all my weight on there and this is the way a fast, powerful right hand is thrown, but yes your probably right what seperates the best of the best quality right hands is that little step you keep talking about that hardly any boxers can master because its so technicel (darn that little step its so hard to master...), not the fact that some fighters have the co ordination and balance to do things you cant, so simply percieve as being impossible for others aswell/wrong.

Oh yes and your so right no one can possibly counter you with that little step its amazing i cant believe i never thought of it myself... im pretty sure if you tried that on me or anyone else thats been boxing 4 month youd be in trouble, id load up a right uppercut on you that your grandkids would feel and you would turn square into it, or id simply slip to my left and come back with a left hand you would never see because of this great angle youve just made. trying to make an angle as wreckless as that would get you killed in the ring with a good fighter.

[WayneFlint]

Oh yeh and to pick a right hand out of a video like that means nothing, i havent wasted my time watching it but i can assure you hes not simply using that step as an angle and that some conciderable amount of setting up has probably gone into walking his opponent into that punch/angle, a good boxer is thinking a few moves deep, its just not as simple as your implying, i wish it was... lol

[BodyOfWork165]

valuable thread, thank you. - may even print this one out.