A young Kassim Ouma vs Angulo or Kirkland

**amat** · 07-31-2010 09:31 PM

Yea I agree about Julio Spicoli and I know there is subtlety to what he does more then I give him credit for but I don't think he's beating many top 5-10 154s. How he would fare against Ouma I don't know but Ouma was pretty freakin good before the Karmazin loss he was really well thought of.

**milmascaras1** · 07-31-2010 09:47 PM

the fact that ouma doesn't have alot of power tells you right there that angulo would not respect it and would try to walk down ouma. one, i think angulo would be too big, too strong, and with too much power. ouma would make it a nice little cat and mouse game for a few rounds but once angulo gets heated up, he's very hard to slow down. angulo by TKO in 9.

**CutMeMick** · 07-31-2010 09:54 PM

I can't make an assesment on this as I don't think either Angulo or Kirkland have hit their prime...

Angulos about 2 steps ahead of Kirk as far as opposition but they have yet to step in the ring against a top rated contender. Me personally I didn't think much of Alcine.

I think either one has yet to be tested and let's not forget that Julio was clearly outboxing Angulo. IMO that is Angulos low point that he can be outboxed.

**Spicoli** · 07-31-2010 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by amat

Yea I agree about Julio Spicoli and I know there is subtlety to what he does more then I give him credit for but I don't think he's beating many top 5-10 154s. How he would fare against Ouma I don't know but Ouma was pretty freakin good before the Karmazin loss he was really well thought of.

Yeh no doubt about Oumas run.His show against Phillips in the 2nd,might have been first (??) match was really impressive.With his big confidence,thick chin and keeping boxing sharp he would have had solid chance vs todays Angulo who is just now hitting stride.Big factor...how would Ouma take it to the stomach.

Sidenote..anyone here see that documentary on Oumas life story

**ArawakWarria** · 08-01-2010 12:46 AM

I have to say that the responses show how many boxing purist are now part of this great forum. So glad to see it grow over the years.

I agree that Ouma had a very special ability in his prime, and I personally think he outboxed Jermain Taylor for the Middleweight crown.

At that time, he would have outboxed Angulo, but I think Kirkland has the combination of power and pressure to bust Kassim's pipes. Honestly, I think Ouma v. Angulo would have been the better 'boxing' match.