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    Default Re: How Good......... Spoilers.

    I'd have to disagree. I thought he looked great (and I really wanted a KO of Diaz). But Diaz, to his credit, changed his tactics and probably made it harder for the counter-punching JMM to get the KO. And yes... JMM's face did look the worse for the wear (although if glove thumbs hadn't been eliminated already, I'd swear it looked like he'd been thumbed), but Diaz's face was not exactly unmarked either. I do agree that a Pacquaio fight is out of the question, but mostly because I don't think they'll ever meet at a weight acceptable to both at this point in time. Manny has moved on from 135, and JMM has no business anywhere else. And finally, you have to factor in JMM's age. I thought he did a remarkable job, considering he's over the 35-year old mark. But no one can outrun Father Time, and JMM probably has only a couple of fights left in him at that elite level.

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    Default Re: How Good......... Spoilers.

    He looked okay.

    I wouldn't say he was shot or anything like that but he didn't appear to be firing on all cylinders. His accuracy wasn't so great because some of the time he was just throwing flurries instead of timing Diaz properly. To me that shows that the trigger finger is a little worn out.

    Also, Diaz appeared to be very one-dimensional and one-handed and really should of been put to sleep.

    Marquez was moving well and getting himself in all the right positions but it just wasn't vintage counter-punching.
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    Default Re: How Good......... Spoilers.

    Wow you guys are some tough critics...but hey most real boxing fans are. I don't know what people were expecting out of jm but damn for coming off a loss and in against a pretty tough dude in diaz ( i still remember when diaz was mowing through people) marquez looked pretty freakin good. The guy is ranked as one of boxings best pfp and he should be. For the flack marquez is getting i know diaz won't be even mentioned in the positive but i give props to him too. Diaz hung in there when and gave pretty good effort kinda. I know a lot of people wanted a ko but it's not like diaz was gettin taken out a whole lot before this. Good damn night in general really...
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    Default Re: How Good......... Spoilers.

    I thought he looked good all in all. Diaz wasn't so bad either. It was pretty entertaining.

    I do think Marquez is still more than a match for anyone at 135 or 140.
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    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

    Really?

    I think the opposite. After seeing the state of his face last night and he didn't even seem to get caught that much.

    Katsidis hits hard and is aggressive, the only time JMM struggled last night was when he was under constant pressure, much like in their first fight. I think Katsidis would do that all night and knock him out half way through the fight.

    Don't get me wrong JMM is still a very good fighter, I just don't think he has the strenght to mix it with the current best
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    Thanks for the input fellas, i'll rep everyone when i get around to it. Im downloading the fight now as we speak so i'll give you my thoughts later or tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

    Really?

    I think the opposite. After seeing the state of his face last night and he didn't even seem to get caught that much.

    Katsidis hits hard and is aggressive, the only time JMM struggled last night was when he was under constant pressure, much like in their first fight. I think Katsidis would do that all night and knock him out half way through the fight.

    Don't get me wrong JMM is still a very good fighter, I just don't think he has the strenght to mix it with the current best
    Marquez will counter Katisidis all night and stop him about 7 for me. lets not get carried away with Katsidis now cos he beat Kevin Mitchell, Kats for me would be totally outclssed.

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    Default Re: How Good......... Spoilers.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

    Really?

    I think the opposite. After seeing the state of his face last night and he didn't even seem to get caught that much.

    Katsidis hits hard and is aggressive, the only time JMM struggled last night was when he was under constant pressure, much like in their first fight. I think Katsidis would do that all night and knock him out half way through the fight.

    Don't get me wrong JMM is still a very good fighter, I just don't think he has the strenght to mix it with the current best
    Good thing for Marquez that Katsidis really ain't that good. He's a B fighter who's lost every time he's stepped up (no Mitchell wasn't a step up). He can punch, yes. But you need a lot more than power to beat Marquez. A lot more. Katsidis doesn't have what it takes to beat Marquez. The fact that some think Katsidis could even be competitive against Marquez is down right foolish. He was barely competitive against Diaz who pretty much dominated him. Anybody with half a brain knows that should of been a UD loss for Katsidis.

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