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    Default Re: How Good......... Spoilers.

    I thought he looked good all in all. Diaz wasn't so bad either. It was pretty entertaining.

    I do think Marquez is still more than a match for anyone at 135 or 140.
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    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

    Really?

    I think the opposite. After seeing the state of his face last night and he didn't even seem to get caught that much.

    Katsidis hits hard and is aggressive, the only time JMM struggled last night was when he was under constant pressure, much like in their first fight. I think Katsidis would do that all night and knock him out half way through the fight.

    Don't get me wrong JMM is still a very good fighter, I just don't think he has the strenght to mix it with the current best
    Last edited by 0james0; 08-01-2010 at 05:34 PM.

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    Thanks for the input fellas, i'll rep everyone when i get around to it. Im downloading the fight now as we speak so i'll give you my thoughts later or tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

    Really?

    I think the opposite. After seeing the state of his face last night and he didn't even seem to get caught that much.

    Katsidis hits hard and is aggressive, the only time JMM struggled last night was when he was under constant pressure, much like in their first fight. I think Katsidis would do that all night and knock him out half way through the fight.

    Don't get me wrong JMM is still a very good fighter, I just don't think he has the strenght to mix it with the current best
    Marquez will counter Katisidis all night and stop him about 7 for me. lets not get carried away with Katsidis now cos he beat Kevin Mitchell, Kats for me would be totally outclssed.

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    Not just his Mitchell fight, but his fights previous.

    I don't think JMM is as good a counter puncher as he used to be, the accuracy isn't what it was.

    Plus JMM vs Kat won't even happen, no pay, big risk. He'll fight Pac or Amir next I recon.

    Then retire.

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    I don't know what you guys are on about to be honest, i just watched the fight. And i thought JMM fought a better fight in the rematch, his back never touched the ropes. He took the fight to Juan Diaz early on letting him know he's the boss.

    On numerous times he rocked Juan Diaz, and he pretty much won almost every round. I don't know what else he could of done, Juan Diaz is no mug and to almost shut him out shows JMM still has it.

    The only thing im worried about, is that JMM's face is getting busted up pretty quickly recently. I know the thumbing caused the swelling, but still if you see all his recent fights. He always getting busted up.

    So thats slightly worrying, but other than that i thought it was a good/solid performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    I think Katsidis is in all sorts of trouble if he fights Marquez next.

    Really?

    I think the opposite. After seeing the state of his face last night and he didn't even seem to get caught that much.

    Katsidis hits hard and is aggressive, the only time JMM struggled last night was when he was under constant pressure, much like in their first fight. I think Katsidis would do that all night and knock him out half way through the fight.

    Don't get me wrong JMM is still a very good fighter, I just don't think he has the strenght to mix it with the current best
    Good thing for Marquez that Katsidis really ain't that good. He's a B fighter who's lost every time he's stepped up (no Mitchell wasn't a step up). He can punch, yes. But you need a lot more than power to beat Marquez. A lot more. Katsidis doesn't have what it takes to beat Marquez. The fact that some think Katsidis could even be competitive against Marquez is down right foolish. He was barely competitive against Diaz who pretty much dominated him. Anybody with half a brain knows that should of been a UD loss for Katsidis.

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    i thought he looked a bit rusty at first, but then just fell back into it, he dominated Diaz, IMO on paper it wasn't really even close, he stunned him with pretty much anything he landed flush and he pushed him back alot of the fight, Diaz started out ok and well wa alot more cautious than he was in the first fight, used his jab well and paced himself, but Marquez would LAND flurries of like 4 flush shots and then back up, remember he's been out for nearly a year, and he is 37, from what i saw last night he still spanks everyone at 135 lbs, including Katsidis, Guerrero, Soto, and even over Funeka (which i doubt will fight at that weight anymore), but honestly i think Khan would overwhelm him mainly just cause of reach, size, and youth, but hope Marquez would pick up the KO over him as well

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    And don't forget that Diaz is coming back from a loss to Paulie "I play with kittens in sparring" Malinagi. He's quick and all, but let's be honest, most of us would beat him up!

    That's a massive black mark against any top fighter, the Diaz win doesn't confirm he can beat a top dog by any stretch. All the people being mentioned would also smash Diaz and Paulie.

    I hope he doesn't get beat up soon (Marquez) so I do worry for him. He always has great fights so I'm looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    And don't forget that Diaz is coming back from a loss to Paulie "I play with kittens in sparring" Malinagi. He's quick and all, but let's be honest, most of us would beat him up!

    That's a massive black mark against any top fighter, the Diaz win doesn't confirm he can beat a top dog by any stretch. All the people being mentioned would also smash Diaz and Paulie.

    I hope he doesn't get beat up soon (Marquez) so I do worry for him. He always has great fights so I'm looking forward to it.

    I actully thought Diaz last nite looked as good as he has for a longtime, he would beat all the oher 135 fighters for me. Katsidis has not got a hope in hell v Marquez he will be totally outclassed mate.

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    Maybe, but they wouldn't piss over Khan or Manny and they are the two most likely next fights for JMM.

    I see Amir being a worse fight for him than Pac simply because of the cryptonite factor. Khans range and speed would be too much.

    And yes Diaz did look sharp, but still.

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    He has hunger and desire coming out of his ass. But at some point soon he will come up against someone who wants it more and has the skills to do it.

    I have loved him as a fighter, but I do think the end is near and it's not going to be pretty. He's still a world champ so you can't write him off, but I have a bad feeling for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    He has hunger and desire coming out of his ass. But at some point soon he will come up against someone who wants it more and has the skills to do it.

    I have loved him as a fighter, but I do think the end is near and it's not going to be pretty. He's still a world champ so you can't write him off, but I have a bad feeling for him.
    Oh i agree. If Marquez continues on for an extended amount of time eventually some youngster will get him. But I see no way it could be Katsidis. Katsidis fights with hunger. I give him that. But his hunger couldn't match that of a faded Casamayor. It wouldn't match Marquez's either

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