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    i thought he looked a bit rusty at first, but then just fell back into it, he dominated Diaz, IMO on paper it wasn't really even close, he stunned him with pretty much anything he landed flush and he pushed him back alot of the fight, Diaz started out ok and well wa alot more cautious than he was in the first fight, used his jab well and paced himself, but Marquez would LAND flurries of like 4 flush shots and then back up, remember he's been out for nearly a year, and he is 37, from what i saw last night he still spanks everyone at 135 lbs, including Katsidis, Guerrero, Soto, and even over Funeka (which i doubt will fight at that weight anymore), but honestly i think Khan would overwhelm him mainly just cause of reach, size, and youth, but hope Marquez would pick up the KO over him as well

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    Great technically but he seemed winded in the last 3 rounds, definitely the age is showing now.
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    Ild like to see JMM stay at lightweight and fight Katsidis, rather than give weight against Khan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Ild like to see JMM stay at lightweight and fight Katsidis, rather than give weight against Khan.
    Yup maybe Khan will be using Marquez as another feather on his cap but it could also be Marquez' chance for a 4th div championships. Khan, Bradley, Alexander and Maidana are all tough tasks too deep of a division really but I believe Marquez has a chance.
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    And don't forget that Diaz is coming back from a loss to Paulie "I play with kittens in sparring" Malinagi. He's quick and all, but let's be honest, most of us would beat him up!

    That's a massive black mark against any top fighter, the Diaz win doesn't confirm he can beat a top dog by any stretch. All the people being mentioned would also smash Diaz and Paulie.

    I hope he doesn't get beat up soon (Marquez) so I do worry for him. He always has great fights so I'm looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    And don't forget that Diaz is coming back from a loss to Paulie "I play with kittens in sparring" Malinagi. He's quick and all, but let's be honest, most of us would beat him up!

    That's a massive black mark against any top fighter, the Diaz win doesn't confirm he can beat a top dog by any stretch. All the people being mentioned would also smash Diaz and Paulie.

    I hope he doesn't get beat up soon (Marquez) so I do worry for him. He always has great fights so I'm looking forward to it.

    I actully thought Diaz last nite looked as good as he has for a longtime, he would beat all the oher 135 fighters for me. Katsidis has not got a hope in hell v Marquez he will be totally outclassed mate.

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    Maybe, but they wouldn't piss over Khan or Manny and they are the two most likely next fights for JMM.

    I see Amir being a worse fight for him than Pac simply because of the cryptonite factor. Khans range and speed would be too much.

    And yes Diaz did look sharp, but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    I don't want to take anything away from JMM, he fought brilliantly and outclassed a very good fighter. He deserved the win and looked good doing it.

    I just fear for him for his next few fights, as good as he is, age is clearly catching up with him. His face marks and swells easier and his reactions and pop isn't like it was. I really think if he steps up another level he will get beat.

    Then there are the B class fighters who would love to get a chance at him, but prob won't. But I really think someone like Katsidis will be the one to retire him. JMM is a league above him, a better fighter, but I think age will catch up with him overnight and we'll all be gutted to see him lose to someone we know he should have beat. There are too many examples for me to need to even give one. Sometimes the hunger in the challenger is too much
    What you think still drives Marquez? Why he still does what he does? Hunger

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    He has hunger and desire coming out of his ass. But at some point soon he will come up against someone who wants it more and has the skills to do it.

    I have loved him as a fighter, but I do think the end is near and it's not going to be pretty. He's still a world champ so you can't write him off, but I have a bad feeling for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    He has hunger and desire coming out of his ass. But at some point soon he will come up against someone who wants it more and has the skills to do it.

    I have loved him as a fighter, but I do think the end is near and it's not going to be pretty. He's still a world champ so you can't write him off, but I have a bad feeling for him.
    Oh i agree. If Marquez continues on for an extended amount of time eventually some youngster will get him. But I see no way it could be Katsidis. Katsidis fights with hunger. I give him that. But his hunger couldn't match that of a faded Casamayor. It wouldn't match Marquez's either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    He has hunger and desire coming out of his ass. But at some point soon he will come up against someone who wants it more and has the skills to do it.

    I have loved him as a fighter, but I do think the end is near and it's not going to be pretty. He's still a world champ so you can't write him off, but I have a bad feeling for him.
    Oh i agree. If Marquez continues on for an extended amount of time eventually some youngster will get him. But I see no way it could be Katsidis. Katsidis fights with hunger. I give him that. But his hunger couldn't match that of a faded Casamayor. It wouldn't match Marquez's either
    exactly, Katsidis is so damn hungry that he gets wreck less, then gets caught, same thing would happen against Marquez, Katsidis would get brutally stopped

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    Kevin bloody Mitchell was outboxing Katsidis lol, Till he decided to stand and trade, I cant see how this version of Marquez gets beat by a guy who has been found wanting everytime he has stepped it up.

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    I think he looked good against a younger opponent in Diaz..He still is a sure HALL OF FAMER..

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    Marquez face has been through alot, he's starting to get into Vasquez type perm damage. He has alot of scar tissue from those Paquiao fights, you can see the lines and how the face turns red real fast and cuts easy. Its not gonna be getting any easier for Marquez, father time is catching up to him.

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    Want to see a JMM fight with Katsidis though...

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