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    Default Re: Pirog is a beast!!

    Don't know if you've noticed mate but El TerribleMorales has just pointed out that Danny Jacobs is only 23! You need to go and tell him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Don't know if you've noticed mate but El TerribleMorales has just pointed out that Danny Jacobs is only 23! You need to go and tell him.
    difference is Jacobs at least got KTFO against a world level guy , and yet i don't think he'll be fighting guys like Ike Quartey and then try to play it up like he just smashed a game guy like Khan did with a much smaller Barrera

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    I think Martinez beats Pirog like a gong if they ever fight. At actual world level Pirog has lots of power but nothing else. He makes Pavlik look like SRR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Martinez beats Pirog like a gong if they ever fight. At actual world level Pirog has lots of power but nothing else. He makes Pavlik look like SRR.
    His style is nothing like Pavlik's. Not saying he is better or worse, but his style is completely different. And he wasn't even known for his power as someone else mentioned (which makes you question Danny's chin), if anything he was known for his defense, something we all know, Pavlik doesn't have. He definitely is NOT the stereotypical European fighter. He bends and moves much more than the average.

    Kirkland - check the following videos, I think you'll see he fights a lot more in the steroetypical American style if anything. His movement is like a poor man's PBF.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Martinez beats Pirog like a gong if they ever fight. At actual world level Pirog has lots of power but nothing else. He makes Pavlik look like SRR.
    His style is nothing like Pavlik's. Not saying he is better or worse, but his style is completely different. And he wasn't even known for his power as someone else mentioned (which makes you question Danny's chin), if anything he was known for his defense, something we all know, Pavlik doesn't have. He definitely is NOT the stereotypical European fighter. He bends and moves much more than the average.

    Kirkland - check the following videos, I think you'll see he fights a lot more in the steroetypical American style if anything. His movement is like a poor man's PBF.
    That's the first time I saw him and I was steaming drunk and full of special cake. I'll have to watch the fight again and watch a couple of future fights I suppose. I saw all the upper body movement but I didn't think he was anything special. I thought Jacobs was rubbish and Pirog was slightly better up to the KO.

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    All I can say from watching the fight on youtube is WOW....that guy isn't very quick on his feet but he's very cagey. He has excellent head movement and good defense but the thing he does the best is he pivots in on his opponent getting closer kind of short arming lead rights (they are leads because he pivots into a southpaw stance) lulling his opponent into a false sense of security just before the KO Jacobs' body language says "OK, the rights are at a distance I can roll with them" and then Pirog switches orthodox again and it's lights out...Jacobs was fucked because his back was against the ropes and there was nowhere (seemingly) for him to go.

    I think Pirog's style would work well vs someone like Jermain Taylor (in his prime) but not so much vs a Bernard Hopkins or Andre Ward or maybe even Dirrell as those guys are quick but kind of have a sense of danger before a punch is thrown where they will either get the hell out of the way or tie up and I think that's the way you beat this guy. Good 1-2, keep distance, once he pivots to southpaw you tie him up and he never gets you in range for the big bomb.

    Sergio can handle this guy, he's a southpaw I don't see that pivoting in working on a southpaw like Sergio....maybe against Paul Williams but not Martinez.


    I would LOVE to see Pirog vs Cintron

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Don't know if you've noticed mate but El TerribleMorales has just pointed out that Danny Jacobs is only 23! You need to go and tell him.
    difference is Jacobs at least got KTFO against a world level guy , and yet i don't think he'll be fighting guys like Ike Quartey and then try to play it up like he just smashed a game guy like Khan did with a much smaller Barrera
    Give over. As if you knew Pirog was world level before the fight...

    He's 30 year old, fighting outside of Europe for the first time. He beat a prospect who was facing his first major test. Let's see where Pirog goes from here. I'm pretty sure there was a 'Prescott is a beast' thread after he beat Khan
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Give over. As if you knew Pirog was world level before the fight...

    He's 30 year old, fighting outside of Europe for the first time. He beat a prospect who was facing his first major test. Let's see where Pirog goes from here. I'm pretty sure there was a 'Prescott is a beast' thread after he beat Khan
    ....I think if you put Pirog in vs Sebastian Sylvester you'd have to make Pirog a favorite

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    Just re watching the HBO feed for the fight, and the commentator team is quite ignorant, don't seem like they do there homework the way they reacted to that finish was as if it was same scale as Tyson/Douglas??

    " Shock of the year " Same scale as Andy Lee and Amir Khan wtf?? Khan and Lee were around 1/25 on to win there fights they were shocks, Jacobs was generally a 4/6 favourite basically 50/50 fight.

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    He didn't look like any of the previous Russian fighters I'VE ever seen.
    I was truly impressed with his movement and poise, especially considering it was his first fight in the Mecca of boxing.

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    A fight vs Sylvester is a unification bout if I'm not mistaken and it would futher increase his stock in Europe.

    I'm not sure what fight would be big in America for him....although I would LOVE for him to starch Sergio Mora!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Just re watching the HBO feed for the fight, and the commentator team is quite ignorant, don't seem like they do there homework the way they reacted to that finish was as if it was same scale as Tyson/Douglas??

    " Shock of the year " Same scale as Andy Lee and Amir Khan wtf?? Khan and Lee were around 1/25 on to win there fights they were shocks, Jacobs was generally a 4/6 favourite basically 50/50 fight.
    Pirog was a 3-1 underdog from what I saw and most every american boxing analyst picked Jacobs to win.

    Why didn't HBO interview Pirog after the fight? Was it me or was that weird? He had just derailed a major middleweight prospect and no interview?

    Pirog has a fan friendly style. From what I've seen of Sylvester, Pirog beats him. He looked very fliud and relaxed considering this was his first fight in the US and his first fight on a big stage. He was boxing like he knew he was going to win from round 1.

    How about Pirog v. Pavlik? Actually, I'm sure Kelly wants nothing to do with Pirog. I bet Sergio beats him at this point, but its a good fight either way. I'm not sure a loss to Sergio would drop Pirog's stock too much anyway and it would be another big pay day in the US and a win propels him into p4p territory. Plus its a unification bout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Just re watching the HBO feed for the fight, and the commentator team is quite ignorant, don't seem like they do there homework the way they reacted to that finish was as if it was same scale as Tyson/Douglas??

    " Shock of the year " Same scale as Andy Lee and Amir Khan wtf?? Khan and Lee were around 1/25 on to win there fights they were shocks, Jacobs was generally a 4/6 favourite basically 50/50 fight.
    Pirog was a 3-1 underdog from what I saw and most every american boxing analyst picked Jacobs to win.

    Why didn't HBO interview Pirog after the fight? Was it me or was that weird? He had just derailed a major middleweight prospect and no interview?

    Pirog has a fan friendly style. From what I've seen of Sylvester, Pirog beats him. He looked very fliud and relaxed considering this was his first fight in the US and his first fight on a big stage. He was boxing like he knew he was going to win from round 1.

    How about Pirog v. Pavlik? Actually, I'm sure Kelly wants nothing to do with Pirog. I bet Sergio beats him at this point, but its a good fight either way. I'm not sure a loss to Sergio would drop Pirog's stock too much anyway and it would be another big pay day in the US and a win propels him into p4p territory. Plus its a unification bout.
    Oddschecker.com lists all the online bookmakers over here, and Jacobs was generally 4/6 ,8/13 ,4/7/ Pigog 11/10 6/4, now i never saw 3/1 and if I saw any price similar to that I would of thought it was Christmas.

    The gambler dude on youtube black fella with that tash had Pirog and quite a few others I read, not that I don't believe you but 3 -/1 Where was this?

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