What type of boxing fan ARE you?

[jolz]

jolz,

i read your comments and i must say you are a very down to earth person. seriously! and by the way, i don't hate filipinos. i know alot of filipinos who are good friends of mine. maybe it was my fault that i was generalizing all filipinos because of some bad apples and i admit i was wrong. and i must say that i believe filipino fighters are very tough, valiant warriors, just like mexicans, puerto ricans, americans, cubans, etc...those guys don't have quit in them and i admire their toughness. they might be small in stature but i believe they are second to none when it comes to fighting. and another thing, when pacquiao first came unto the boxing scene with a thunder when he destroyed marco barrera in 2003, i was also a fan of his. but because of his fans, i soon started disliking him. really, i admire the man because he's one of the very few worldwide superstars who are still down to earth and won't let fame corrupt him. oh and by the way, i am an avid follower of filipino boxing. i follow all of their fights and have a database of all their world champions in history! so Jolz, hopefully we can have civil and intelligent conversations from now on. mabuhay ka!

OK bro..You can bash nuthuggers..
You cannot dislike the man himself. He is more humble than most of Pacfans. I can say you are a real boxing fan because you follow every fight. And my bad, I am always infuriating you with my comments. Boxing is brotherhood..

[milmascaras1]

jolz,

indeed, boxing is a brotherhood. today i was looking at the results from the philippines at BOXREC and they had a really huge card somewhere where they showcased some really promising prospects. right now philippine boxing is virtually at a standstill but it looks like you guys have some pretty good young prospects coming up.

these guys are really young and it would be foolish for their managers to pit them against competition they are not ready for. this rushing filipino prospects has been going on since pacquiao came unto the scene and it's practically ruined some prospects like rey bautista and a.j. banal and a few others. these managers are looking for the next pacquiao but there can only be one pacquiao.

yeah, mexico has alot of super prospects as well. you can say mexico's boxing is at a standstill even with 9 champions but wait until their prospects are ready. it's going to be exciting because if these prospects are brought up correctly and not too fast, many of them are going to be world champions.

as far as following every fight, that's almost true! lol...i've got a lot of time on my hands and i like to do research and i have loads of statistics on boxing, baseball, football, world cup soccer etc...

mabuhay ka pare!

[milmascaras1]

titofan,

yes indeed, puerto rico/mexico rivalry is tops in boxing. but do you know what bewilders me? how can puerto rico produce so many quality world champions with such a miniscule population as compared to other densely populated countries? it's really amazing!

years ago i had a black friend who was from new york and she told me that her dad made her carry a knife to school every day because she was always getting into fights with puerto ricans. she even told me that if whenever there was a fight, 9 times out of 10 it involved a puerto rican.

that's why you guys are so good at boxing cause you're fightin' mofo's!!1

[TitoFan]

titofan,

yes indeed, puerto rico/mexico rivalry is tops in boxing. but do you know what bewilders me? how can puerto rico produce so many quality world champions with such a miniscule population as compared to other densely populated countries? it's really amazing!

years ago i had a black friend who was from new york and she told me that her dad made her carry a knife to school every day because she was always getting into fights with puerto ricans. she even told me that if whenever there was a fight, 9 times out of 10 it involved a puerto rican.

that's why you guys are so good at boxing cause you're fightin' mofo's!!1

LOL... yeah, Puerto Ricans in NY by and large give the rest of us a bad rap (or maybe a good one, depending how you look at it). But seriously... I think the reason for the disproportionate number of great champions coming out of an island with such a miniscule population (in comparison with other boxing powers) is that we have what I would call a spectacular boxing development program. You go to just about any town on the island, and you'll find fights being held at local gyms, where you'll see amazing young talent. Just the other day I was discussing with a friend at work how the future looks promising for more P.R. champions, based on the young talent coming up through the ranks these days.

A year or so ago I did some research on the number of historical world champions from the different countries, and compared it to the populations of those countries. And while the boxing powers you'd expect are near the top of the list: (U.S., Mexico, England, Venezuela), little Puerto Rico was far and away at the top of that list (champions divided by population, that is). Obviously in terms of sheer number of historical world champions, the U.S. and Mexico and #1 and #2, respectively.

[milmascaras1]

titofan,

indeed, puerto rico is per capita boxing's cream of the crop!

[jolz]

jolz,

indeed, boxing is a brotherhood. today i was looking at the results from the philippines at BOXREC and they had a really huge card somewhere where they showcased some really promising prospects. right now philippine boxing is virtually at a standstill but it looks like you guys have some pretty good young prospects coming up.

these guys are really young and it would be foolish for their managers to pit them against competition they are not ready for. this rushing filipino prospects has been going on since pacquiao came unto the scene and it's practically ruined some prospects like rey bautista and a.j. banal and a few others. these managers are looking for the next pacquiao but there can only be one pacquiao.

yeah, mexico has alot of super prospects as well. you can say mexico's boxing is at a standstill even with 9 champions but wait until their prospects are ready. it's going to be exciting because if these prospects are brought up correctly and not too fast, many of them are going to be world champions.

as far as following every fight, that's almost true! lol...i've got a lot of time on my hands and i like to do research and i have loads of statistics on boxing, baseball, football, world cup soccer etc...

mabuhay ka pare!

sadly, Philippine boxing will never get its place if corrupt managers and promoters will feed promising fighters to the lions. Eversince Pacmania occured, each promising prospect is rushed on to something dangerous. I am not saying this as an excuse. But take a look at Montiel Vs. Ciso Morales. The kid was visibly unfit and not ready to fight a veteran.

On the other hand, other young fighters are pitted against Thai veterans and get this, they are scheduling fights in Thailand even without sufficient permits from GAB (the Philippines' governing body in all sports). In order to compete with the world, we Filipinos should not only focus on Pacquiao alone. We should focus on developing the sport and setting aside personal greed..

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I'm definitely a 0% 'Business Fan'

[Master]

I am a nostalgic boxing fan, missing the great heavyweight fights of the 90's, a peak RJJ and the punching power of Julian Jackson.

[generalbulldog]

I am a nostalgic boxing fan, missing the great heavyweight fights of the 90's, a peak RJJ and the punching power of Julian Jackson.

That's a good one, I have to say I am partially a nostalgic fan too. I actually miss Hagler, Duran, and Hearns. Ray Leonard was just too prima donna for my taste.

[TitoFan]

Going back to this thread, I earlier categorized myself as 25% nationalistic fan, higher than just about everyone else that has posted on here (although I'm sure if everyone was 100% honest, there'd be a few people over the 25% mark). But I got to cut myself some slack. Even though our (Puerto Rico) biggest rivalry is with Mexico, I've always had a handful of Mexican fighters that I've been a fan of throughout their careers. This comes to mind mostly because of recent threads about Juan Manuel Marquez, of whom I've always been a big fan. To name some prominent Mexican fighters (or of Mexican descent) and whether I'm a fan or not, I'd list the following:

Big fan: Ricardo "Finito" Lopez, MAB, JMM
Lukewarm: Salvador Sanchez, Erik Morales
NOT a fan: JCC (or Junior), DLH, Vargas (although I've softened on him a bit)