Vladimir Klitschko really this good or just bad contenders??

[0james0]

As good as they are, I'll still look forward to the day Haye gets in the ring with one of them and knocks them out!

[El Kabong]

As good as they are, I'll still look forward to the day Haye gets in the ring with one of them and knocks them out!

....I like to dream too

[0james0]

As good as they are, I'll still look forward to the day Haye gets in the ring with one of them and knocks them out!

....I like to dream too

and there was me thinking we would disagree on the matter. I'm glad we are on the same wavelength and dreaming of a Haye KO!

[El Kabong]

I can see Holyfield and Lewis being difficult for pretty much any all time great champion....Wlad wouldn't necessarily be a cake walk for Lewis given Lennox's propensity for starting slowly and unenthusiasticly.

As for Bowe I'm not so sure. To me he had great potential but other than Holyfield and Golota he never really tested himself vs the best of his era (namely Tyson and Lewis) and if Golota worked him over then I figure Wladimir could do even better.

[Rantcatrat]

I can see Holyfield and Lewis being difficult for pretty much any all time great champion....Wlad wouldn't necessarily be a cake walk for Lewis given Lennox's propensity for starting slowly and unenthusiasticly.

As for Bowe I'm not so sure. To me he had great potential but other than Holyfield and Golota he never really tested himself vs the best of his era (namely Tyson and Lewis) and if Golota worked him over then I figure Wladimir could do even better.

So, Lyle, all said, where do you rate Wlad/Vitali of all-time heavyweights?

[El Kabong]

Well I mean dreaming in general, but sure Chicken Little and KO will be used in the same sentence if he ever fights Wlad but I doubt you'll enjoy the outcome

[0james0]

........but if he fights Vitali.............................

[Spicoli]

All this time I thought he had a w in his first name.

[El Kabong]

........but if he fights Vitali.............................

Yup Vitali murders him

[El Kabong]

I rate Wlad and Vitali in the 15-20 range just based on accomplishments, on talent they may be higher.

[Rantcatrat]

I rate Wlad and Vitali in the 15-20 range just based on accomplishments, on talent they may be higher.

Prime Mike Tyson versus Wlad?

[Master]

I rate Wlad and Vitali in the 15-20 range just based on accomplishments, on talent they may be higher.

Prime Mike Tyson versus Wlad?

Tyson KO whenever he connects.

[generalbulldog]

Here's a good one. Prime Mike vs Prime Vitali. Who wins?

[boxingbantz]

As good as they are, I'll still look forward to the day Haye gets in the ring with one of them and knocks them out!

Mate, take off your St George Tinted Specs.

Haye wouldn't knock either of them out. They'd jab his chicken head off.

[Balboa]

The Haye vs Klitschko comments keep me in stitches.


David Haye has a shot like any boxer with a good punch has a shot. Yes, yes, hypothetically he could catch one of them cold and early with a right hand like any number of heavies have been upset over the years. Almost any heavyweight could be substituted in for Haye and have the same thing said. Hasim Rahman, Oleg Maskaev, Cris Arreola, Samuel Peter, etc etc, ad nauseum. That's boxing. It happens.

But chances are so slim, and fading faster and faster as the rounds go on, that this ACTUALLY happens.

Hey, I reeeeaaalllly wanted Ricky Hatton to beat Pacman, and you see where all my wishing got me.

David Haye is a chump. A quasi-talented cruiserweight with a decent punch now trying to make a living in the land of the giants. End of story. Now if he decideds to run and hide or keep getting injured for another few years and finally signs to fight the brothers in their 40's I say his chances climb.

Today and tomorrow though, either Klitschko retires him.


Someone help me though. What is the fascination with Haye? Is it because there's no Tysons and Bowes running around? Are we that desperate?