Vladimir Klitschko really this good or just bad contenders??

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I look back at previous heavyweights, and I struggle to find very many heavyweights over the history of the sport that would have been these two at their best.

I think they would have steam rolled Frazier, Marciano, Patterson, Liston, Louis, Foreman. I see absolutley no way how these guys could get in on guys taller and stronger than them with that kind of jab.

I don't think Holmes and Ali's moving on the outside styles would be super effective because at least Wlad who is always in balance would walk them down with his jab.

Norton might present problems for Wlad because he is awkward, but Vitali would destroy.

Honestly besides Lennox Lewis I can't think of a fighter who even in their prime I would give a better than 50/50 chance against these brothers.

I also find it insulting or ignorant to say Wlad hasn't fought quality opposition in the last little run Ibragimov, Chagaev, Peter(at the time), Byrd, Brock, Chambers, and the list goes on were all highly competent fighters. But Wlad has great timing and highly underrated speed, and I can't think of a punch in the history of the heavyweight division that landed more consistently than Wlad's jab, and that jab lands like most heavyweights crosses.

Wow are you kidding me Taeth ? Lennox Lewis was outjabbed by the likes of Frank Bruno, Ray Mercer. Larry Holmes was a better version of Lennox Lewis no question, he had a better jab, better chin, better athletically, faster hands, better footwork. The only thing Lennox Lewis has over Larry Holmes is size and power. But still Larry Holmes was no small fry at 6'3 either.

As for Muhammad Ali well its pretty much the same as Larry Holmes, except the size and power. But yet again Muhammad Ali was no small fry either, i don't see why you think Lennox Lewis is so perfect.

There's plenty of Heavyweight's better than Lennox Lewis, and i don't get where you get the word athletic from and use it too describe Lennox Lewis. At times he was very lumbering, Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, ETC. Were much better athletically and there's plenty more aswell.

Wladimir Klitschko to me is the new Lennox Lewis, although he's not as strong mentally, and he lacks variety. Where as Lennox Lewis could fight on the inside and had the uppercut.

I got nothing against Lennox Lewis, and he was very good. But the way you describe him at times im thinking is this the same fighter ?