Haye offered 50/50 to fight Wladimir

[0james0]

The Klitscho's are desperate to fight Haye, they know they need him to round off their legacy and also it is the biggest fight they have available.

They can fill 60,000 seats in the home town, great. Kevin Mitchell did 40,000 and look at his standard! hometown crowd numbers are great, but Haye vs Klitchso would sell out any arena worldwide.

Would the Klits fill a stadium in the UK or US? I don't think so. Would Haye? (in Germany or US) I think he probably would.

The Klits are massive draws in Eastern Europe, Haye is a draw worldwide and that is down to the way he has run his mouth and created interest

Deserved or not, the people are more interested in Haye than the Klits.

It's a shame Haye appears to have bottled it as I think he had a genuine chance against Vitali, I think it would have been Valuev 2.

On a seperate note, won't Haye been forced to fight a mandatory soon if he stays out of the ring for much longer?

[El Kabong]

Where do you get this notion that Chicken Little is a "Worldwide draw"? Or that the Klitschko's can't get people to their fights in the US?

[Hornfinger]

It must be very painful for you to accept this lyle, but just like Ricky Hatton had, Haye has travelling support. People from the UK who'll go anywhere to watch him box. I know you yanks don't get behind your fighters in the same way but that is the fact of it.

Haye is the draw in heavy weight boxing. Both klits know this but more importantly Booth and haye know that. So if the klits want the money, the fight, and to be back on PPV they're going to have to show more respect around the negotiating table and stop asking for a cut of the uk PPV revenue. The klits keep the PPV from there end Haye keeps the PPV from his and this fight would be made.

Simples.

[El Kabong]

Who has fought repeatedly in a packed Madison Square Garden? ......THANK YOU.

Fans of the Diva get more and more delusional (just like with Hatton)

[0james0]

I'm not daft enough to think Haye will definatley beat either Klit, but I do know that worldwide, more people would be interested in watching a Haye fight than any Klit outing.

The Klitches are the better fighters based on past fights, repuation and title holdings. But the fact is people do find them boring, that is the truth and everyone knows it.

Don't confuse this with their skills. They are both world class fighters, but unfortuantley people aren't that interested in them (other than locally)

If Haye and Vitali both had fights on in vegas, one in the MGM and the other say in the Madalay, more people would want to watch Haye I'm sure of it. Where do I get this idea from? Various forums that have worldwide posters, they all say the same thing.

Hayes potential and mostly his mouth excites people.

[El Kabong]

Interesting......"People aren't that interested in seeing them fight (other than locally)", what am I? A giraffe?

Also you basically make a point that boxing should be less about SKILL and more about HYPE...go watch the WWE for that!

[Nameless]

It must be very painful for you to accept this lyle, but just like Ricky Hatton had, Haye has travelling support. People from the UK who'll go anywhere to watch him box. I know you yanks don't get behind your fighters in the same way but that is the fact of it.

Haye is the draw in heavy weight boxing. Both klits know this but more importantly Booth and haye know that. So if the klits want the money, the fight, and to be back on PPV they're going to have to show more respect around the negotiating table and stop asking for a cut of the uk PPV revenue. The klits keep the PPV from there end Haye keeps the PPV from his and this fight would be made.

Simples.

Best Haye crowd: 18 000. Best Klitschko audience: between 50 to 80k. Enough for that, especially because Haye hasn't proven much yet to the HW if beating a washed off Ruiz and Valuev who should have lost big time against A finished Real Deal and a Jean Francois Bergeron.

[El Kabong]

Also just because you sell out a 20K seat arena doesn't automatically mean you will sell out an 80K seat stadium.

[Kirkland Laing]

YOUR BOY

Stop posting rascist shit like this Lyle. It's offensive to non-racist people.

[El Kabong]

YOUR BOY

Stop posting rascist shit like this Lyle. It's offensive to non-racist people.

Are we on that again? Well if it offends you and you find it racist why don't you tell YOUR BOY Saddo and if he finds it offensive he'll ban me and if he doesn't find it offensive then I suggest you either find a new place to post or just ignore it.

[generalbulldog]

As for people saying that Haye would filled out a stadium or some kind of big venue in the US, I would say no. Unless those filling out the big venue were traveling Brits.

The average sports fan in the US, more than likely doesn't know who Haye is, the same also applies to the Klit brothers.

Boxing at this point in time in the US, is nothing more than a 3rd rate sport in many American's eyes. With the exception of Pacquiao, I don't think any foreign fighter can fill out a stadium in the US.

[0james0]

Interesting......"People aren't that interested in seeing them fight (other than locally)", what am I? A giraffe?

Also you basically make a point that boxing should be less about SKILL and more about HYPE...go watch the WWE for that!

I think your rose tinted glasses helped you misread my post.

Rightly or wrongly, people are bored of the brothers. Maybe they are too good for their own good, but it doesn't hide the fact that despite them being excellent boxers, people just don't like them. People respect what they have achieved, but they still don't like them.

Where as Haye, no one respects what he has achieved, but people are interested in him. This isn't just a UK thing, but worldwide people are interested in him.

I thought you would have realised by now that the hype and promotion is a huge part of boxing. It's not what counts in the ring, but as Haye has shown, do it right and it will get you places far quicker.

I've not once defended Haye and his running, I was making a point about the attention he has created. But you are too one sided to see anything other than an attack on your precious bro's.

[Hornfinger]

Who has fought repeatedly in a packed Madison Square Garden? ......THANK YOU.

Fans of the Diva get more and more delusional (just like with Hatton)

Who got told by HBO none of there fights would be shown again any time in the near future...... Thankyou

Shame Ricky was British ay.

[El Kabong]

Who's never had a fight on HBO?

Its no shame that Hatton was British the shame is that his fans were jackasses (a very loud minority of them)