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just re-watched both fights, and i had Johnson winning it by 2 points, landed more, was able to drop Cloud's work rate, and made Cloud fight his fight, it was a good fight and another gutsy performance who has fought the best at 175, Johnson is our eras Dwight Muhammad Qawi, although his record might not look too fancy at first glance there is no doubt that he is a HOF worthy fighter

as for the Alexander fight, it was close but i had Alexander winning clearly, also i was shocked that Alexander didn't complain about how much Kotelnik kept intentionally stepping on his lead foot, it was especially obvious from the 2nd round on
You serious? Alexander won clearly? No fucking chance, Alexander throwing punches and not landing don' t win you rounds watched it again just now and Kotlenik was robbed I gave Alexander 4 rounds. Alexander was throwing shots that were not landing Kotelnik landed way more shots and all his shots were much more damging than Alexanders, he got a gfift last night, just because he was throwing tippy tappy one two's at elbows and gloves don't win you rounds.

116-112 Kotelnik for me clear win.
I wont say Alexander lost because he built up an early lead but I agree he was not landing as it seemed...He lost the battle of the jabs BIG compubox stated that much....In a rematch IMO Kotelnik would win by wide UD...Add the fact all 3 judges were rookies in title fights and the fact this was Alexanders homecoming party.....No Sir I wont say he lost the fight in a points sense but he sure as hell did not win either