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    Rubin Hurricane Carter. Getting robbed of a life and career for a crime he did not commit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Rubin Hurricane Carter. Getting robbed of a life and career for a crime he did not commit.
    I'm not so sure he did not commit the crime to be honest though. Fair enough if you watch the film he didn't but he was never proven innocent and even after reading 2 different books (one of which he wrote himself, another which was written on his behalf) I'm not sold.

    In fact there were so many lies in the film, I think that is what has made me so dubious as to whether or not he really is innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Rubin Hurricane Carter. Getting robbed of a life and career for a crime he did not commit.
    I'm not so sure he did not commit the crime to be honest though. Fair enough if you watch the film he didn't but he was never proven innocent and even after reading 2 different books (one of which he wrote himself, another which was written on his behalf) I'm not sold.

    In fact there were so many lies in the film, I think that is what has made me so dubious as to whether or not he really is innocent.
    yeah man, I read up alot on it as well, I'd be pretty sure he had something to do with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Rubin Hurricane Carter. Getting robbed of a life and career for a crime he did not commit.
    I'm not so sure he did not commit the crime to be honest though. Fair enough if you watch the film he didn't but he was never proven innocent and even after reading 2 different books (one of which he wrote himself, another which was written on his behalf) I'm not sold.

    In fact there were so many lies in the film, I think that is what has made me so dubious as to whether or not he really is innocent.
    Back in the day, I remember writing to one of the boxing magazines to give my reasons why RUBIN "Hurricane" CARTER WAS INNOCENT. Well my friend it was
    very clear to me based on some of the original evidence concerning the description of
    the shooter. It was based on size, little Rubin did not match the description and that
    is all I have to say about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Rubin Hurricane Carter. Getting robbed of a life and career for a crime he did not commit.
    I'm not so sure he did not commit the crime to be honest though. Fair enough if you watch the film he didn't but he was never proven innocent and even after reading 2 different books (one of which he wrote himself, another which was written on his behalf) I'm not sold.

    In fact there were so many lies in the film, I think that is what has made me so dubious as to whether or not he really is innocent.
    A chat with someone he knew at the time has always had me wondering too.
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    Scott Harrison. The guy could of/should of been undisputed champ. Instead he's languishing in a Spanish prison

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    I think Lyle did made the best selection and in the whole, Chuvalo and Collins JR will be the most 2 tragic for me, one being a ring legend "punished" by life and the other one being ruined by the greed.

    As for Hurricaine, mordern evidences seem to demonstrate that he was, in fact, very guilty of the crime. Carter wasn't an angel and already had a thick criminal record behind, he wasn't ranked #1 but considered on his downfall (being classed #9 by the ring magazine at the time). Also, during his second process, he's never been formally ACQUIT, not at all, he's been released because of vice of procedure, which means that the proofs against him were solid but that the police didn't follow the protocol correctly therefore the proof couldn't not be considered. I've read a lot about that case and I felt quit gutted when I realized that I got fooled by Bob Dylan's song all my life long. The movie is very un-accurate on a lot of issues too, painting the main detective as an "evil" man, which he was not, among other things.

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    Johnny Owen, if he was fighting today he would have failed medical checks and his life saved

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    There is tragic and then there is self-destruct. Vernon Forest is an example of a tragedy. Where as James Kirkland was on self-destruct mode. And speaking about Kirkland http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=5438472
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Rubin Hurricane Carter. Getting robbed of a life and career for a crime he did not commit.
    Carter has never been exonerated by the courts, he was released due to procedural errors only. His story is like swiss cheese, there are a lot of holes in it. Dylan hasn't played the song live for decades, he now believes Carter did it! Carter's credibilty is very dubious.

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    Tragic in the Greek sense

    James Butler. At first glance, he just seems like the scum of the earth, but obviously there’s a lot more to it than that.

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