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    Default Re: Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

    long overdue if you ask me

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    Default Re: Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    long overdue if you ask me
    absolutly....wlad is responsible for making himself the best, not the quality of his crappy opponets. If he can beat you with nothing more than a jab then that's the fault of the guys he fights.
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    Default Re: Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

    I find it hard to believe many of the 9 people above him have achieved more.

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    Default Re: Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

    It's long overdue, Wlad has been the best HW since 2005, all but demolishing his opponents.

    The guy may not have a fan friendly style but he is the man at HW.

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    Default Re: Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

    It's stupid to rank him P4P. He holds a significant size advantage over virtually everyone he fights.

    Just look at Marquez-Mayweather to see what happens when two GREAT fighters meet with an unfair size advantage in effect.

    Wlad is a talented big man. He is not an exceptional boxing talent. He would be average without the size advantage.
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    Default Re: Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

    Well #1 Wlad hasn't held a significant "size advantage" over everyone he's fought...he's not been heavier or taller than everyone he's fought, sometimes heavier, sometimes taller, but usually just one or the other.

    #2 I don't think he'd be "average" if he was say 6'1 or 6'3 as opposed to 6'5-6'6, the guy has serious skill....he might be more vulnerable to getting hit but he's a great fighter.

    #3 Heavyweights shouldn't be entered in P4P rankings for many reasons but mainly because people simply overrate smaller fighters, they treat them differently. Fans assume lighter fighters have more skill and heavier fighters are all about brute strength. Also take a look at those smaller fighters, it's the biggest of them that garner the most wins and respect, not the smallest.

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    Default Re: Wladimir cracks the POUND FOR POUND Ratings

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Well #1 Wlad hasn't held a significant "size advantage" over everyone he's fought...he's not been heavier or taller than everyone he's fought, sometimes heavier, sometimes taller, but usually just one or the other.

    #2 I don't think he'd be "average" if he was say 6'1 or 6'3 as opposed to 6'5-6'6, the guy has serious skill....he might be more vulnerable to getting hit but he's a great fighter.

    #3 Heavyweights shouldn't be entered in P4P rankings for many reasons but mainly because people simply overrate smaller fighters, they treat them differently. Fans assume lighter fighters have more skill and heavier fighters are all about brute strength. Also take a look at those smaller fighters, it's the biggest of them that garner the most wins and respect, not the smallest.
    p4p means the best fighters regardless of size, so why should HWs be excluded from the list?

    Mike Tyson during the 80s was p4p #1 3 years in a row rated by Ring Magazine. And it was justifiable in my opinion. Ali surely would have been p4p #1 during the 60s before his banishment from the ring.

    If the hw fighter has serious skills he should make the list or if he's that good rated #1.

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