Haye Statement - What could it mean?

[Majesty]

....odd that Valuev got a rematch clause that Chicken Little nor his manager complained about.

Oh for fuck sake here we go. That was ONE yes ONE rematch, not three like the Klits demanded.

Question: What fight would make more money?

But honestly a rematch clause like that.

Fight me, if you win fight my brother, if you win fight me again.

Is a waste of time in boxing and just sets the heavyweight division in an endless circle.

Boxing won't survive if things like that are allowed to happen or contractsl ike that are agreed to. You got to admit.

If Marquez told Mayweather, you beat me, you face Rafael, if you face Rafael and win, face me again.

Boxers don't have the years in them like they used to, they shouldn't have to deal with 3 rematch clauses for the same opponents over and over again. And it isn't like the old days when this could happen over a spam of 2 months, this would take a year and a half of fights of the same, and it would do more to sour heavyweight boxing instead of liven it.

[El Kabong]

It's an erroneous point to begin with Majesty because #1 had Chicken Little beaten Wlad and fought Vitali and beaten him a) He would have been the first person ever to do it b) rematch clauses are voided all the time and c) Chicken Little (if we are to believe him) would have no problem with any fight "as long as the money is right" and #2 had Chicken Little gotten his ass kicked (as we KNOW he would have) the demand for such a rematch would only come from Chicken Little's camp and no one else's.....so where's the issue? What's the big deal? If it's easy to beat the Klitschko's then do it, if you don't want to fight them then don't, but don't say you DO want to fight them when in reality you're a chicken shit coward that wants to ride out their 15 minutes of fame.

Wlad even said (regarding the Setanta deal) "If Setanta goes bankrupt and you're not going to make enough money, why not tell me or my managers so we can make a new deal for you?"...the answer is Chicken Little didn't want to actually fight Wladimir because Chicken Little knows he'll get his ass kicked

And as for excessive rematches...there was a 50/50 deal with 0 rematches on the table and Chicken Little is STILL fighting Audley Harrison, so 'SPLAIN that to me

[Hornfinger]

It's an erroneous point to begin with Majesty because #1 had Chicken Little beaten Wlad and fought Vitali and beaten him a) He would have been the first person ever to do it b) rematch clauses are voided all the time and c) Chicken Little (if we are to believe him) would have no problem with any fight "as long as the money is right" and #2 had Chicken Little gotten his ass kicked (as we KNOW he would have) the demand for such a rematch would only come from Chicken Little's camp and no one else's.....so where's the issue? What's the big deal? If it's easy to beat the Klitschko's then do it, if you don't want to fight them then don't, but don't say you DO want to fight them when in reality you're a chicken shit coward that wants to ride out their 15 minutes of fame.

Wlad even said (regarding the Setanta deal) "If Setanta goes bankrupt and you're not going to make enough money, why not tell me or my managers so we can make a new deal for you?"...the answer is Chicken Little didn't want to actually fight Wladimir because Chicken Little knows he'll get his ass kicked

And as for excessive rematches...there was a 50/50 deal with 0 rematches on the table and Chicken Little is STILL fighting Audley Harrison, so 'SPLAIN that to me

weres your proof that that was the contract? I want to see it. not a report I want to know where you can actually view that.

[El Kabong]

weres your proof that that was the contract? I want to see it. not a report I want to know where you can actually view that.

...well let me reach in my bag of unsigned boxing contracts

Where's the Harrison fight contract? Does Chicken Little not have rematch clauses? Is he giving Audley his fair amount of cash, what with being a pathetic local fighter and accepting the fight and following through and all? And I don't want "reports" I want a scanned and notarized copy of it.

....nobody has those details bar the managers (perhaps the fighters), but I am more inclined to believe the people who actively tried to make the match happen rather than those who have called for the match but have never followed through with the actual match.

I know this post will only draw your contempt but I can't argue with someone as illogical as yourself...your fighter signed on the dotted line to fight Wladimir and then chickened out that is a FACT nobody, not even someone as delusional as yourself can deny it

[rjj tszyu]

....odd that Valuev got a rematch clause that Chicken Little nor his manager complained about.

Oh for fuck sake here we go. That was ONE yes ONE rematch, not three like the Klits demanded.

Question: What fight would make more money?

We all know that a fight with Vitali, the man who pushed Lennox Lewis into retirement would make most money because of the amount of Sky PPV sales that would generate. I seriously think Haye vs Vitali would get somewhere around 1.5million sales in Britain and it would sell out any venue here too. But Haye is playing the waiting game and not taking the fight. No one is denying that Lyle.

[generalbulldog]

Haye fights Evander Holyfield within the next 2 fights after Harrison.

Believe that.

[rjj tszyu]

Haye fights Evander Holyfield within the next 2 fights after Harrison.

Believe that.

To be honest it wouldn't surprise me!

Here is the statement anyway.

[Gandalf]

LOL, so what was the point of that statement then? An excuse to get the tits out and show a bit of sweat? How utterly pointless.

If Haye was fighting someone halfway decent then there would be far less shit being spoken, but as it stands Haye himself is the one going ahead and fighting Audley.

What a charlatan and what a poser too.

[El Kabong]

We all know that a fight with Vitali, the man who pushed Lennox Lewis into retirement would make most money because of the amount of Sky PPV sales that would generate. I seriously think Haye vs Vitali would get somewhere around 1.5million sales in Britain and it would sell out any venue here too. But Haye is playing the waiting game and not taking the fight. No one is denying that Lyle.

I'm just saying "if it's all about the money" then shouldn't Chicken Little fight the Klitschko's sooner rather than later? Ricky Hatton got beat by Mayweather and then went home had a couple more fights and made bank...what's wrong with that approach?

[skel1983]

We all know that a fight with Vitali, the man who pushed Lennox Lewis into retirement would make most money because of the amount of Sky PPV sales that would generate. I seriously think Haye vs Vitali would get somewhere around 1.5million sales in Britain and it would sell out any venue here too. But Haye is playing the waiting game and not taking the fight. No one is denying that Lyle.

I'm just saying "if it's all about the money" then shouldn't Chicken Little fight the Klitschko's sooner rather than later? Ricky Hatton got beat by Mayweather and then went home had a couple more fights and made bank...what's wrong with that approach?

That is a little different Lyle Hatton has a huge fanbase from more or less day one, Haye's fans have only just come out to play since they have been led to believe he is the new Lennox Lewis by him the media and his team.

I mean only 18 months ago he only had 8000 in the O2 Arena ( half empty ) v Monte Barrett that was after an offer of by one get one free ticket was offered. If Haye gets beat I don't see him having the following of a Hatton.

[El Kabong]

That is a little different Lyle Hatton has a huge fanbase from more or less day one, Haye's fans have only just come out to play since they have been led to believe he is the new Lennox Lewis by him the media and his team.

I mean only 18 months ago he only had 8000 in the O2 Arena ( half empty ) v Monte Barrett that was after an offer of by one get one free ticket was offered. If Haye gets beat I don't see him having the following of a Hatton.

Well I understand that, but if the guy fought both Klitschko's (win or lose both brothers want to fight him) he would make more money than let's say if Audley sparks him.

[generalbulldog]

Speaking of Hatton, I was never a fan of his, but I had to respect the guy for fighting any Tom, Dick, and Harry near his division. If Haye was a 140 pounder like Hatton no way he fights guys like Tszyu or Pac or Floyd. He would have fought for a title against some crappy champ and milk it for all it's worth at that weight, sounds like con boy!

[ono]

Speaking of Hatton, I was never a fan of his, but I had to respect the guy for fighting any Tom, Dick, and Harry near his division. If Haye was a 140 pounder like Hatton no way he fights guys like Tszyu or Pac or Floyd. He would have fought for a title against some crappy champ and milk it for all it's worth at that weight, sounds like con boy!

I disagree. Hatton took 38 fights before he fought anyone who remotely expected to beat him. You could make a case for both his greatest wins coming against guys who were over the hill (not saying they were, just saying you could make a case for it).

Haye's earlier competition was strong. Fragomeni, Hurov and Rossitto were all tough tests. He also got Warren to agree to the Enzo Mac fight, at a time where Enzo was considered dangerous. He then went to Paris and knocked out Mormeck, and later went to Germany to fight Valuev.

Hatton fought Floyd and Pac after 40+ fights. You can't really judge Haye until he has retired, because there is a chapter in his career that hasn't been written yet.

[ono]

That is a little different Lyle Hatton has a huge fanbase from more or less day one, Haye's fans have only just come out to play since they have been led to believe he is the new Lennox Lewis by him the media and his team.

I mean only 18 months ago he only had 8000 in the O2 Arena ( half empty ) v Monte Barrett that was after an offer of by one get one free ticket was offered. If Haye gets beat I don't see him having the following of a Hatton.

Well I understand that, but if the guy fought both Klitschko's (win or lose both brothers want to fight him) he would make more money than let's say if Audley sparks him.

The flipside is Haye knocks out Audley makes £15m, and then makes another £10m or so fighting a mandatory, before fighting either Klitschko. I know which one i'd go for if i was Haye.

[Fenster]

That is a little different Lyle Hatton has a huge fanbase from more or less day one, Haye's fans have only just come out to play since they have been led to believe he is the new Lennox Lewis by him the media and his team.

I mean only 18 months ago he only had 8000 in the O2 Arena ( half empty ) v Monte Barrett that was after an offer of by one get one free ticket was offered. If Haye gets beat I don't see him having the following of a Hatton.

Well I understand that, but if the guy fought both Klitschko's (win or lose both brothers want to fight him) he would make more money than let's say if Audley sparks him.

The flipside is Haye knocks out Audley makes £15m, and then makes another £10m or so fighting a mandatory, before fighting either Klitschko. I know which one i'd go for if i was Haye.

£15m for Audley? Dream on Your theory does make sense though.

Lets say Haye can get £5million for being a 70/30 underdog against a Klit or £2.5million for being a 90/10 favourite against Audley. He loses to a Klit and he's back at the bottom of the pile. A spectacular KO over Audley increases his value for future fights.

What do you choose?